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what about a YOUNG people's vote? (the people who didn't get a say last time)

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M3lon · 16/01/2019 08:59

I kinda get the 'anti-democratic' argument about a people's vote - not really, but I see why MPs view it as a disaster. But what about asking the 1.6 million people aged 18 to 20.5 who are now of voting age who weren't able to vote in the referendum...and adding their polling to the previous vote?

Could it possibly be considered anti-democratic to ask people who haven't had a say...and who are incidentally most affected by this decision?

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bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 19:35

No. Because the adults at the time made the decision for them and they have to live with it. It's how voting works. My late mum's last vote before she died was Remain. She did it for her children and grandchildren. Most of the adults among those voted (including me) voted Remain but not all did. Because they are free to do so.
Sorry, but that idea gets a no from me.

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M3lon · 16/01/2019 21:05

yes - it seems a lot of people disagree with the idea.

I feel like the votes of the living should be more important than the votes of the dead.

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bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 21:38

Those "dead" are loved and respected family members of some people regardless of how they voted. To say the decisions they took at the end of their lives are automatically to be discounted is cruel and unfair.

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M3lon · 16/01/2019 21:54

worse, surely, to prevent 18 year olds having a say when its their whole future ahead of them.

The dead don't care what happens next.

I've lost a parent in that time frame, but I still think a child's living wishes are more important than a dead parents.

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PinkGin24 · 16/01/2019 22:00

Stupid idea. How about we re-do it next year, and the year after, and the year after that as each new 'cohort' of voters come of age.

Stardustinmyeyes · 16/01/2019 22:05

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M3lon · 16/01/2019 22:17

pink why not? either its important to know what people think or it isn't. If it is then, then test it regularly...if its not then stop pretending democracy has anything to do with it!

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millyonth · 16/01/2019 22:30

There is an interesting school of thought that says that parents should have extra votes for their children . Eg if you are a single parent with 3 kids you get 4 votes. That way the special interests of children (ie playgrounds , education) get representation. Wacky . But there is some logic to it.

jasjas1973 · 16/01/2019 22:40

Brexit and its effects don't affect the old, so i can see the argument OP but won't happen.
GE's don't normally result in permanent decisions being made with no accountability.
I guess the young, like my DD, will vote with their feet, if they don't like brexit, they have no other option

time4chocolate · 16/01/2019 22:55

I really don't think that's a good idea. There is enough division already in
this country involving anyone currently 21 or older. But hey let's just extend that division and add in all 18 to 20 year olds too. I wouldn't want my children to be part of that thanks.

Dongdingdong · 16/01/2019 22:59

Aren’t the “young people” the ones who voted that self-serving Brexiteer Corbyn to be leader of the Labour Party? I think they’ve done enough damage to our country to be honest.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 16/01/2019 23:16

I read the other day that ever minute an old person who voted leave dies and a young person who is included to remain turns 18. This is one of the reasons why the Brexiteers are against a new vote.

Jorgezaunders · 17/01/2019 00:02

It's a good idea.
You can therefore be certain that the British people will be passionately against it.

Reallyevilmuffin · 17/01/2019 00:04

Another version of keep asking people until we get the answer I want. Very European.

goldengummybear · 17/01/2019 00:31

There were enough young people who complained about the result but didn't vote. It's a terrible idea. Imagine leaving and joining every year. 😂

BlueJag · 17/01/2019 01:08

And if my grandmother had wheels she'll be a bicycle.
Absolutely ludicrous idea. Yes let's get the young to vote now and dismiss the old voters.
The ones that lived thru it all. Those people that experienced war, hunger, fear, death paid their taxes etc
Disregard them for the ones that haven't put a penny to the economy, that are better feed and cared for than ever.
God save us from the dumb and the dummer. Confused

BlueJag · 17/01/2019 01:10

@ThinkAboutItTomorrow we are against the new vote because we already voted.
Once in a generation vote. If they missed the bote they missed the boat.
Give up already...

Sugarhunnyicedtea · 17/01/2019 11:36

Where would you like the cut off to be? My DS turns 18 in april so is ineligible to vote now but I'd like him to have a say so perhaps we could vote every 3 months so it's 'fair' all round? Ridiculous!

bellinisurge · 17/01/2019 11:39

18 on the day of an election. That's it. Rely on your parents and elders to make voting decisions that take you into account.

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M3lon · 17/01/2019 17:14

bluejag I'm sure a lot of people voted last time who hadn't contributed a penny to the economy...the young at least have a valid reason for not having contributed yet!

Mind you we could put a net tax generated limit on who is allowed to vote if you like? But I imagine that wouldn't result in your preferred option winning...

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BlueJag · 17/01/2019 17:56

@M3lon there is no logic in your argument. You can't go back an unring the bell. The young will have their own opportunities to vote and decide the future.
I know the'll probably never have the opportunity to leave or remain in the EU.
I don't think the EU will be in existence as we know it in years to come.
Without our money they won't survive.

1tisILeClerc · 17/01/2019 18:02

{Another version of keep asking people until we get the answer I want. Very European.}
Mainland Europeans aren't getting the army on standby, stockpiling food and lying to their electorate.

Doubletrouble99 · 17/01/2019 18:05

Another daft idea! So we ignore the people who remembered what it was like before we were in the EU/CM!
Who remember traveling in Europe before FOM, in paying for things in all sorts of currencies etc. etc. and as has been said leave it to the young who have little experience of life who want JC as prime minister, great idea!

BlueJag · 17/01/2019 18:05

@1tisILeClerc is that supposedly our scenario?
I most live in a hole...

bellinisurge · 17/01/2019 18:06

I was too young to vote in the Stay In referendum, do I get my own vote?
Also, I was just too young for Thatcher's first election. Can I get to vote on that?