Are you afraid? Brexit.

[Puddelchen]

I feel very uneasy about what the future holds for us after Brexit but am I just overreacting? Can it really be so terrible? Why is no one around me talking about this in real life, you would think it would be a hot topic.

{ EU would love UK to stay in, but will not be bullied by post Colonial idiots either who don't know their arse from their elbow right now, and everyone knows it, apart from those in their bubble of propaganda who cannot explain anything to us.}

Absolutely.
There are ONLY 3 options. Crash out with no deal, the WA or Revoke. There is NO more negotiation until 29 March or before if Mrs May wants to declare a decision ahead of 29th.

1tisILeClerc

Thanks I agree with you. Well why wouldn't I?

So if we hold our fingers up.....

NO DEAL... NO

WA....... will not get through Parliament AFAIS.

So revoke and see what the heck happens.

At this stage I am afraid that the No Deal Leavers need a kick up the eighties. Everyone knows it will be a disaster.

I am just sighing here. I really don't know what to think anymore.

But whatever happens, I really hope it does not result in any riots or Nazi slogans, or whatever.

So bloody unnecessary. One MP is already dead. Anna Soubry had to face an awful onslaught. This is only the beginning. And for what?

There is no way on earth that people's lives here were destroyed enough by the direct actions of the EU to ever justify any of the consequences we are about to face.

It just was not an issue until gullible people were told 'this is why your life is miserable and look over there, those nasty forriners are coming to make it worse'. There have always been Eurosceptics of course, I'm not denying that. I just don't think the majority of the population gave it a second thought before 2016.

What a dark and dangerous path David Cameron has set us on.

Deep shit is on the way of course.
No deal will just be somewhere near catastrophic, but even the WA route and Revoke is going to be a massive problem as there are so many industries leaving. They will not stay, as they won't trust the government to negotiate during the transition period and even if we revoke, many are already out of the door and having invested won't bother coming back.
As the German car industry is reeling from 'Dieselgate' and upset caused by the USA/China trade 'bust up' they basically don't need the UK production, or it will be 50/50, so the closedowns they have announced as 2/4 weeks may become months.
The UK government doesn't have enough money to bale all the industry out. Some mega serious negotiations need to happen damn soon as unless (and even if) the decision is revoke everyone needs to know what to do on the morning of 30 March.

{ I just don't think the majority of the population gave it a second thought before 2016.}
Interest in the EU was around 6% just before Cameron came up with the referendum idea.

We are screwed whatever, aren't we? It's just degrees of diasaster at this point. Christ.

I don't get the passionate irrational hatred that ordinary people, usually not particularly politically engaged, suddenly have for the EU. Just can't work it out. I heard a caller on 5 live's Nicky Campbell programme this morning talk about how remainers represented the establishment and leavers were somehow brave mavericks fighting against inequality etc. He just couldn't grasp that brexit isn't a people's revolution to overturn austerity or whatever but a right wing extreme neoliberal coup conducted by millionaires

Biggest con trick in UK history.

{Biggest con trick in UK history.}
It's a good way to start a civil war, which would suit Putin and Trump down to the ground.

I don't get the passionate irrational hatred that ordinary people, usually not particularly politically engaged, suddenly have for the EU. Really?
It's always been there. And the referendum allowed that discontent to be voiced. People like me would have loved to trundle on in the EU but I live in a nice little middle class enclave and I'm alright Jack.

Theresa May should revoke A50. It would be the most patriotic thing done for any country ever at this stage I believe.

Does anyone think patriotism and looking after the populace trumps the Tory ERG or whomever?

I am totally baffled by this road to self destruction now.

Derxa I don't live in a nice middle class enclave though but a grim northern town that 's a shadow of its former self after years of austerity, underinvestment and institutional neglect. It's obvious that the EU hasn't caused this - 5 years ago local people I know weren't decrying the EU, they were blaming the government.....

Yes - I'm petrified. I'm scared of the impact on our finances, I'm scared of losing all of the equity in our home and therefore ending up penniless!

Derxa I don't live in a nice middle class enclave though but a grim northern town that 's a shadow of its former self after years of austerity, underinvestment and institutional neglect. It's obvious that the EU hasn't caused this - 5 years ago local people I know weren't decrying the EU, they were blaming the government..... Well I'm sorry about that. What have your local MPs and local government been doing about the problems in the area?

Blimey I'm just watching Ed Milliband on TV talking about a cross party initiative on social housing on CH4 news. I'd forgotten he was an MP.

OK the mighty UK ( not anymore) is in self destruct mode no matter what.

Well that is down to their incompetence IMV, and ERG thinking they can call the shots.

What a fkn shitstorm awaits all of us. So unnecessary too.

It is awful what they are doing, all this unnecessary terror, for that is what it is. (people are prepping for meds OMG) Not everyone will think that, I get it, but it is unreal really.

And for what? Qui Bono?

@dearohdearohdear9 I've always wondered (just told my DH we should buy gold) how you invest in precious metal... You don't have gold bars under the bed do you? I would be very grateful if you could tell me more.

Hi, I don't know very much myself, but I have bought from the royal mint bullion site, signiture range. this means you can buy in small amounts. Take a look on the site for more info The price changes constantly so spend a few days watching. It seems that silver is a better bet than gold right now. You can buy about 82 ounces of silver with one ounce of gold. The stashers suggest buying silver now, then when the ratio is maybe 45 of silver to 1 gold sell. Platinum is a good bet too. Seeking alpha is full of information and there are forums where these topics are discussed. Yup I do have a small stash hidden in the safe I had for christmas. Its mainly silver though. :-(

So does anyone think that the best thing to do now is revoke A50?

Was done in complete haste anyway with no plan, no negotiation strategy, nothing. Rubbish. And we have do deal with it now. I am not happy.

I have serious doubts about a second referendum. My preference would be to revoke and deal with the consequences while everyone still has a full belly and all the medicines we need. What. A. Mess.

I have no idea what the future holds.

I'm an expat but in a European country and have been for over half a decade at this point. My entire life is where I live at present. I have a job and a social life and hobbies and a house and all that good stuff.

I'm able to stay for the time being under the paperwork I currently have, but I've literally no idea if that's going to be the case come next year.

I'm looking into obtaining dual nationality either on the grounds of residence where I live or in the country my grandmother was from at present just to be om the safe side.

So, yes, I'm sort of scared. Or at least worried.

BrexitDestruction

I agree, let us deal with revocation, and see where that leads us, rather than the black hole of Full Brexit.

But it is out of our hands isn't it?

Horrible times, and so not warranted for anyone.

A second referendum or peoples vote whatever doesn't actually make much difference to the fact that there are only 3 choices and one needs to be picked on or before 29 March.
May and the cabinet already know that lies were told and that the referendum was not even as decisive as 48/52, so putting it close to a tie. Everything we are seeing is just posturing because there is no 'right' answer.

TakenForSlanted
Go on either the gov.uk website or one for the country you are in and you will find some information. Some countries have already said that they will be fast track sorting out documentation for Brits to stay, some say things are in the pipeline. France has said something on the lines of getting a carte de Sejour ASAP but there may be revised paperwork in 6 months or so.
The EU have said they don't intend to 'punish' those that are already in the EU before 29 March in any way but as they have no idea what the UK government will say or do they have no final plans themselves.
Definitely worrying.

Thank you @dearohdearohdear9 for replying