Westministenders: Teetering on the edge

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12 weeks to go.

There is rising confidence in the Extreme Brexiteer camp as well as open comments about how they can deliberately force through No Deal. Remember No Deal is the default. Every political crisis that takes up time makes no deal more likely and the ERG can just be obstructive to facilitate a political crisis. Parliament DO NOT have the ultimate power to stop Brexit - unless the government effectively allow an option to do so. And there is no sign May will let this ever happen. No Deal takes us back to pre-industrial revolution Britain in many social and economic ways. Which will please Jacob Rees-Mogg no end.

No Deal prep is now costing us a fortune - and is no where near sufficient in its scope. Won't someone think of all the extra that could have been put into the NHS.

Parliament returns next week. I hope you have enjoyed your Christmas break. What will happen in 2019 no one knows; the only certainity is turbulance and lurching from crisis to crisis. If we don't get hit by Brexit, maybe it will be the US shutdown crisis or the collaspe in the Chinese economy that will get us. Economists are nervous and thats generally not a good thing for the average person on the street.

Time to get in the euros, stock up on the tomatoes, invest in books and otherwise batten down the hatches financially whilst we await the coming storm in the hope that the forecasters are as good as Michael Fish in 1987.

Tom Peck on the 'Potemkin Traffic Jam'.

twitter.com/tompeck/status/1082146978308476928?s=21

Cameron remains unashamed and oblivious of the disaster and divisions he caused in his arrogance.

The country seems as bitterly divided as ever, despite the strong swing from Leave to Remain
The hardcore on both sides are irreconcilable:

Sam Coates Timess@SamCoatesTimes*

Meanwhile this rather bitter finding suggests there’s no healing in sight for anyone:

That Tom Peck thread is pure gold.

"Innovative jams are our thing" LMAO

'Ordered a takeaway curry half an hour ago and there's two blokes outside dredging my driveway.' Also Tom Peck.

I liked this bit from Tom Peck:

"Needless to say, this is all the "brainchild", ie orphan, of Chris Grayling."

You actually couldn’t make this stuff up. I feel like I’m living in a really weird dream.

I have been reading a lot lately about how the Nazis came to power in the 1930s. I can now begin to see why people fell for it - for many he brought work, so as long as they stopped their eyes and ears to what was happening to Jewish neighbours, they were doing OK.

If we contrast this with Brexit, the thing which no one yet has begun to offer is Work - instead firms are leaving or going bust.

That Tom Peck Twitter thread will probably keep me sane all day.

One of the reasons I stay on MN, specifically the Westminsterenders thread is that generally the discussion has been non gender specific.
All the serious negatives in my life, divorce, bereavement and now Brexit have been caused specifically by women (OK Cameron started Brexit but May has turned it into a total shitshow). The negative effects will also seriously effect my DC, so it not just my 'self interest'.

the thing which no one yet has begun to offer is Work - instead firms are leaving or going bust.

But the NHS....

....lots about the NHS.

Strangely.

At a crucial time for May.

Except there is no real money.

Nope, thats all being spent on No Deal prep.

No magic money tree you see...

Last week Matt Hancock was saying that we'd have enough medical supplies 'if things went to plan'.

But Chris Greyling can't get a mini fake traffic jam moving on time.

I agree wholeheartedly with the various rants

Do they really want to see a time when they are scared stiff of paying for Doctors bills? The challenge with that question is that "they" don't think that it will ever apply to "them". It is "the others" who will have to pay for/not be able to access the NHS. Not "them".

It feels scarily like a variant of Pastor Niemoller's warning "First they came for the gypsies/Jews etc....then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak for me"

You dont have a uterus leclerc so obv the decimation of maternity and gynae care over the past 20 years is irrelevant to you.

I think that's a bit unfair, no ?

{You dont have a uterus leclerc so obv the decimation of maternity and gynae care over the past 20 years is irrelevant to you. }
My DC being born prem delivered in a maternity unit with one of the worst reputations in the UK wasn't a worry for both of us then?
Staff that didn't know what facilities were available, (we did as we had been on the visits beforehand). Incorrect attachment of monitoring.
2 weeks stay in hospital with staff giving conflicting information about feeding. Anxiety caused by the charts in the 'red book' being for formula fed babies. I was a SAHD for 16 years. Strangely, come divorce being a stay at home parent is completely valueless.

My dh was pretty devastated by the shocking care I received (also at one of the worst hospitals ) and its physical and emotional impact on me.
Shit maternity care is something for everyone.
This was over 10 years ago. Just a bit of solidarity for @1tisILeClerc on this.

I just complained to the BBC about the presenter this morning on Today suggesting that the 200 MPs had written their letter in order to "sabotage" Brexit. I said that use of the word sabotage or saboteur was emotive and implied right wing bias. It's very depressing - and wasn't even Humphrys!

I think it's fair to acknowledge that it is not only white men pushing brexit but it is the white patriarchal ideology that it feeds off. The fact that there are indeed women, like May, who support and uphold this patriarchy at the expenseof other women is long documented and to be expected. That doesn't take away from the fact that brexit is still in the main pushed by and most violently supported by white men.

@borntobequiet - which numpty journo used that language? Ffs.

One of the guests on last night's Sky News Press Review (can't remember her name: long blonde wavy hair, Remainer) said that she wished she could get paid £250,000 a year for less than an hour's work a week, regurgitating the same old lies tripe (don't think she used the word "tripe" - but not far off it) like BoJo and his "column".

Wasn't one of the regulars, can't find any listing on the website

@borntobequiet - Glad you picked up on that too. I was fuming. I will complain too.

Bigly that is only because in the main the decision makers in this country are men, be it in politics, business or the family finances.

But when women get to the top (ish) e.g. Palin, LePen, Thatcher, Foster, Dorris, Hoey, Hopkins, Stuart or May thay can be equally aggressive pusing xenophobic views.

Didn't female voters in 2016 vote more for Brexit than men? in the over 50s they did and similar to men in other age groups.

All the serious negatives in my life, divorce, bereavement and now Brexit have been caused specifically by women

A woman who said that about men would be called a man hater or a feminazi or something.

A lot of shit in all our lives is caused by the patriarchal society we live in. I want to change it for the sake of my sons as well as my daughters. In the meantime, the weakest get the worst of it. And physically and financially and legislatively (because of less representation) on average, that is women.

Thanks Bellinisurge
I am struggling to think of any 'weak' and 'put upon' women amongst my relations. Does a former senior manager at Astra Zenica count as one?
Obviously this is veering way off topic and I realise that some may take offense but reading many of the posts in AIBU I have to wonder what the heck goes on in some peoples heads.