IamDanish ordinary people are being sold out by our politicians and have been for a long time. They actually have very little say on political matters although the politicians work very hard to give the illusion that they do. Ordinary people have felt disenfranchised for many years: many do not bother to vote because they see little point in doing so.
They feel ignored and regarded with contempt by whoever is in power. At the time of the Referendum, there was a distinct feeling that all the parties were the same, didn't matter who you voted for, they were all self-interested and would do what they wanted anyway.
I don't recognise jm90914's analysis of British culture. The people on the estates where I have lived with support each other - they've had to. There is a culture of unpaid voluntary work that is being tapped by the Government and employers. Of course there are those who are unpleasant, but most are not in my experience.
The previous Labour government was Centrist and some of their attitudes to the poorer areas were even right wing. People at the time saw immigration as a threat to their own jobs and a means of driving already low wages down even further. It was wonderful for those better off because, of course, they could get cheap builders, nannies, cleaners etc.. The resentment was not addressed and people found themselves on benefits and then vilified as "scroungers".
The Labour Government did a great deal to improve life, but they also failed to address this concern, regarding those people who complained as "bigots".
Many of us worked very hard to promote multiculturism: the big town I grew up in was always very welcoming of all cultures and I carried that on where I live now - a much smaller and more Conservative area.
However, I saw a lot of middle class Australian, white African and American people, as well as Europeans, settle in the area and a lot of Eastern European workers come to work here.
British workers were openly condemned as lazy and expensive, sometimes by their own politicians. What they really meant, of course, was that they wanted cheaper workers they could exploit.
When the Coalition Government was elected, they insisted on Austerity. There were no plans to raise wages to replace the money lost by ordinary people. They were expected to cope with reduced benefits and cuts to services while working longer hours and taking on more work with no reward. Unpaid overtime was expected, in work benefits were reduced or removed. They became poorer. They saw those better off than them continuing to enjoy tax cuts, holidays etc. and becoming richer. If they pointed out the unfairness, they were accused of "the politics of envy"
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When the Conservatives won the next election, Austerity was ramped up. Public service funding was cut to the bone, bursaries and grants were also cut, wages did not increase to meet the increasing demands on food, childcare and other essentials - for those lucky enough to have jobs.
Benefits were taken away from people who struggled without them, in many cases very unfairly. In my town is a man who lost his mobility car because he was told he wasn't disabled enough for it. That man has no legs and only one arm. Without his car, he couldn't get to work so he lost his job. His story is far from unusual.
That's the background to the Referendum. A lot of very angry, resentful people, worried about how to feed their families, wanting to give the Government a good jolt and having no real means of doing so. There were a lot of "Elite" posts on social media at the time that were designed to stir these people up.
Added to that was the plain and simple method of people like Nigel Farage being seen drinking in pubs with ordinary people, listening to their concerns. It really is that simple: people felt that someone was actually listening to them and hearing them for the first time. That personal touch that is so lacking in many politicians who expect the people to come to them (how??).
Nigel Farage was regarded as "one of us". It's since come out that he is very far from that - but why did no-one point this out at the time?
I won't go into the lies and poor campaigning that caused the Referendum result: it's been documented on here and elsewhere. It looks as though there was corruption and foreign interference that is still being discovered.
Our election process is First Past The Post. People here are not used to having a plain Yes/No vote. They are used to having to vote tactically, if they vote at all.
Many were astonished that their choice had actually won and this indicates that people voted in a way they really weren't expecting to win. I would guess that most didn't really have any opinion on the EU itself and the Referendum campaigning certainly didn't help there. I don't believe a lot of people thought about the EU at all. Their reasons for voting Leave are often to do with domestic policy and not the EU at all.
The Remain campaign failed to find out what ordinary people were feeling while encouraging them to go out and vote however they felt.
Thus followed a terrifying weekend where our politicians literally abandoned us to resign, write speeches, play bloody cricket (Boris Johnson
) while the right-wingers and racists felt they were given free reign to abuse anyone not British.
I had an EU client arrive at my door with her children on the Monday in tears, she was so frightened. Until she saw my "Welcome" poster in various languages, including her own, she genuinely thought I would turn her away with abuse. More than anything, I am furiously angry that she should have had to experience that fear - I really did not recognise my country at that point.
I feel very little has changed since, although my client has hopefully calmed down now.
Certain factions have continued to stir up racism and far-right sentiments. A hotchpotch of fairly useless politicians have argued and bickered and prevaricated, occasionally making firm decisions like invoking Article 50, then trying to decide what that actually means 🙄
For the first time I can ever remember, they are talking about The Will Of The People but they're making no attempt to actually find out what The People really want. There are lots of shouty types on social media and opinion polls, many of whom probably aren't even British. I think they're being ignored, too, though the polls are being quoted from time to time.
There's been little attempt to address the very real problems for ordinary working people, so there's still a feeling of bitter resentment against the better off. Therefore, they can't have a People's Vote because they're afraid of what the People might do.
Like most people I personally know, I voted Remain. Several of my neighbours voted Leave because the Leave campaign lied to them. It gave them false hope.
One of those neighbours is struggling on a low-paid job with three children, two of whom are disabled. Services and benefits have been cut for his family. Leave promised him something better and lied that money was being paid to the EU that should be kept and used to improve his life. He believed them. He is now disillusioned and posted on Social Media that he wishes he voted Remain and was angrily pilloried.
I will not condemn him: he wanted something better for his family and he believed a bunch of liars who said they could help him achieve this.
Reading the condemnation replies to his post, and on some of these threads for people like him makes me angry because I see no compassion for his situation and no solutions to help him. Just insults for a man who dared to want something better for his family because they might now experience some of the struggles he has coped with for years.
And the politicians will carry on wrangling and ignoring us because so many of them stand to make even more money if we leave the EU.
Do you know my MP is a multimillionaire? Many families in his constituency are having to rely on foodbanks. What a disgrace!
The Centrists are thinking of starting up a new Party. Probably the same as New Labour or similar. All too late to make any difference to whether we stay or leave, of course.
The Labour party - well, who knows? Most of them want to stay. They have a leader that is insisting on The Will Of the People, though 🙄. They're are giving the impression of listening to working class concerns - lots of questions in Parliament about buses, and that report on child poverty that the Government has dismissed. However they are allowing themselves to be side-lined with issues over people changing sex, misogyny, and anti-semitism. The other parties are also having these issues, but for some reason only Labour are expected to do something about it.
I think very little of it was about the EU at all. I believe most people in this country now want to stay with the EU, if only to give us some protection from the lunatics in power.
You asked why we are not rioting in the streets. That was tried in 2011 and the reaction from the Government was draconian, deliberately designed to discourage anyone from rioting again. The previous Conservative Government had a number of riots and David Cameron was determined he wouldn't have a repeat of it.
Lucky he did, really. Theresa May, when she was Home Secretary, cut the police force so they're now struggling to cope with ordinary crime (another cause for discontent) let alone riots.