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Only just noticed the PM’s emblem has a unicorn on it

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Bearbehind · 15/11/2018 20:51

PMSL

Explain a lot!

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Only just noticed the PM’s emblem has a unicorn on it
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HirplesWithHaggis · 15/11/2018 21:34

www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/why-is-the-unicorn-scotland-s-national-animal-1-3953188

Why is the Unicorn Scotland’s national animal?

AN American historian has uncovered the roots of how the Unicorn became Scotland’s national animal in the late 1300s.

Elyse Waters, who is hosting Unicorns: A Zoological Analysis as part of Scotland’s history festival, first became interested in the subject when she discovered a medieval cookbook that included a recipe for how best to cook the mythical beast.

During her research, the historian found that the Unicorn was believed to be the natural enemy of the lion - a symbol that the English royals adopted around a hundred years before.
According to folklore, the lion and the unicorn hate each other - a tradition going back to the ancient Babylonians in 3,500 B.C.
The second natural enemy? The elephant.

“It was always said that the unicorn would always defeat the elephant, that it had this immense strength to it, even despite its diminished size, it couldn’t be beaten by something as large and powerful as an elephant.

“I think it also had to do with the idea of nobility and purity.

“In the various depictions of the unicorn, the stories that go along with it there’s one in particular, the water cleansing story. A snake would come up to the watering hole and poison it, but then the unicorn would then come along and dip its horn into the watering hole to purify it for all the other animals.

“So it had a combination of this power to dominate, but instead of using the power, it used it to protect and provide other resources for other animals. And in medieval times, when there was this great focus on chivalry, it became the ultimate animal. It could do what ever it wanted because of that power, but it chose to use this power to make better for other things.

“When you combine this with all the other stories about its greatness, its power and its ferocity - you can understand why they wanted it.”

In Western parts of the world, the unicorn was believed to be real for around 2,500 years and was adopted as Scotland’s national animal by King Robert in the late 1300s.

The existence of the mythical creature was only disproved in 1825 by scientist Baron George Covier, who said it was not feasible for an animal that had a split hoof to have a single horn coming from the top of its head. Worldwide, belief in the unicorn lasted well over 4,000 years, particularly in eastern Asia where it was a benevolent bringer of good luck.

You'll note the Scottish unicorn is in chains.

1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 21:34

I believe the French animal is a cockerel, the only creature to sing when up to it's ankles in shit.
This might be an urban myth though.

Sugarsnappy · 15/11/2018 21:35

I didn't know about Scotland and the unicorn either

Sugarsnappy · 15/11/2018 21:36

If it makes you feel and better OP, I didn't know about Scotland and the unicorn and I'm half Scottish

Bearbehind · 15/11/2018 21:37

Thanks sugarsnappy

You can share the dunces hat.

Brave call admitting you’re as thick as me in this crowd 😂

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SciFiScream · 15/11/2018 21:38

A quick search would have prevented you looking a bit daft OP. That logo is in common use.

Also it's freaking cool that we have the unicorn as our national animal. Better than a lion any day. The dragon is cool too though.

SavoyCabbage · 15/11/2018 21:38

I’m staggered that people don’t recognise the coat of arms for their own country.

Bearbehind · 15/11/2018 21:40

I’m staggered that people don’t recognise the coat of arms for their own country.

I’m staggered people are so bothered about what their national animal is.

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1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 21:50

I want that 'fake' passport emblem and motto from Monty Python 'mother was a hamster' on my passport just to give passport control something to giggle at to make their day. It must be so boring having to check thousands of grumpy travelers.

UrsulaPandress · 15/11/2018 21:53

You’ll be telling us next that you’ve only just noticed the bear on the toblerone logo Wink [ bear]

1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 21:54

Yep, half right the Gallic rooster for France.

PinkCalluna · 15/11/2018 21:55

I’m staggered people are so bothered about what their national animal is.

You are missing the point Bear it’s not the importance of the unicorn, it’s that you were ignorant of it and that you made fun of it.

History doesn’t seem that important to you but as a smaller and long oppressed neighbour of England’s history is deeply resonant in Scotland.

Our English neighbours have been doing fairly horrific things to us for hundreds of years. Really horrific things.

And before you tell me that’s ancient history read up on the Poll Tax in the 1980s and the effect the Tory government had on Scotland in living memory.

Brexit is just another example of a continuing theme.

It’s a dreadful idea, dreamt up by middle englanders, that Scotland didn’t vote for but will be imposed upon us.

And Scotland isn’t mentioned once in the agreement, despite having significant differences to England in terms of legal system and culture.

Our culture and history isn’t important to you and you don’t respect it. But it is important to us because we keep having to defend it over and over again.

1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 21:55

'Hey bear, get off my mint'.

JockTamsonsBairns · 15/11/2018 22:09

Brilliant post Pink Smile

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 15/11/2018 22:13

National animals aren’t niche knowledge. Off the top of my head I could tell you that France’s is a rooster, Germany’s is an eagle, Russia is either a bear or a two-headed eagle, and I think Austria is also a two-headed eagle. Oh, and China’s is a dragon and India’s is a tiger. The American eagle.

PinkCalluna · 15/11/2018 22:24

Blush Thanks Jock.

Given the OP says she spends a lot of time in Scotland for work I’m just a bit... surprised that any of this is news.

I guess she wasn’t there much in 2014.

Nyx · 15/11/2018 22:59

England: “Let’s come up with some national animals, i’ll go first. Lion”

Wales: “Dragon”

England: “Wait”

Scotland: “UNICORN”

Sugarsnappy · 15/11/2018 23:06

It's defiantly a thought crowd tonight @Bearbehind

Sugarsnappy · 15/11/2018 23:07

Tough even Blush

Sugarsnappy · 15/11/2018 23:07

And definitely...wow I'm not doing well tonight Confused

PinkCalluna · 15/11/2018 23:34

I don’t think Sugar that given the OP’s comments that it has been a particular “tough crowd”.

This stuff isn’t important to you, which is fine, but it is very important to lots of Scots and we’ve tried to explain why.

You might want to consider the privilege inherent in not caring about this stuff. Most Scots, Welsh and Irish folk I know feel similarly about their history, heritage and culture. It’s worth thinking about why that might be.

I think IIRC you said that you were part Scottish? You might find it interesting to read up on that side of your history and heritage, or speak to any remaining family you have in Scotland and see what they say.

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ineedtostopbeingsolazy · 16/11/2018 00:55

As everyone has pointed out it's the Royal coat of arms

BluebellsareBlue · 16/11/2018 07:15

@PinkCalluna great posts!!!

1tisILeClerc · 16/11/2018 07:18

While it is not in the spirit of 'general knowledge retained in your head' a quick google search suggests there are 231 'national animals'.
I was only looking for France as I had suggested it previously, so the other 228 are still a mystery to me.

FloralCup · 16/11/2018 08:52

This stuff isn’t important to you, which is fine, but it is very important to lots of Scots and we’ve tried to explain why.
Really? I lived in Scotland for 20 years and not once did anybody talk about the unicorn.