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Westministenders: Reality Bytes

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RedToothBrush · 01/11/2018 22:39

Tonight the Corbyn and McDonnell Labour Party supported the Tory Party in improving the tax allowance for higher rate tax payers.

Yes you read that right. Did you even blink?

You've been so conditioned into seeing non existant opposition which seems to go against everything the Labour Party stand for that you no longer are shocked.

That's what 2 and a half years of Brexit has done to you.

You no longer care that Boris Johnson got £14,000 from the Saudis a couple of days before the Khashoggi murder. You know longer care that the former Defence Secretary is employed for £75,000 a year to advise a major Saudi Investor.

You are just happy that Trump hasn't started a war with Iran or North Korea yet. And hasn't started a civil war. (Though he's trying hard and next week is his best opportunity to stir it all up). You aren't surprised to hear that predictions are that the Democrats will fail to make gains in the mid terms.

You've suffered the 4657 story about how Therea May is just about to be challenged for the leadership.

You've heard about the squad set up at the Home Office to clear up all the cases the media get their hands on as the latest burning injustice. You are hearing that EU nationals who have been promised they are 'safe' are being subjected to questions about their right to stay. And you just shrug and say, "Yeah well thats the Home Office for you. The Bastards". And you do mean it, but you are so jaded by it all. And you worry that another 12 months from now, you won't even be interested in another story like that, and the press will stop printing them as they no longer interest the reader. What happens to your friends, your family, or even you then? Who is going to care then?

And then you have today.

A day where you hear that Bannon is being investigated by the Senate Intel Committee, Farage has been upgraded to the FBI's Really Naughty List and Banks has (FINALLY) been refered to the NCA. (We were only speculating on the possibility, on the 26th March...)

And you go 'Ooooooooo maybe there is hope'.

Maybe we COULD remain in the EU and avoid Turnip Soup and wiping your arse with leaves because of the national bog roll shortage. Or at least get a decent deal which suits us as a nation. Maybe, just maybe!

And that lasts for about 2 minutes before you log into twitter and the very first thing you see this:

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Excl: David Cameron tells friends he’d like a return to frontline politics, and fancies Foreign Secretary
www.thesun.co.uk/news/7639377/david-cameron-return-to-politics/

And you let out a high pitched screech as if you are were a dying cat as you remember this is 2018, and it just wants to beat the life out of you.

On the plus side, it shows you do still care enough to think 'Don't let that fucking bastard anywhere near power ever, ever again.'.

Ho hum.

Keep on, keeping on. Don't let the bastards win.
Keep caring. It matters.

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DGRossetti · 03/11/2018 17:12

Right on cue, here's the latest from Escobar FM:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46083371

The Army is introducing a zero-tolerance drugs policy in an effort to ensure "high standards" are maintained, the defence secretary has announced.

Gavin Williamson said the use of drugs was "incompatible" with military service, as he announced there would be no more readmissions of former users.

(contd) ...

MyBrexitIsIll · 03/11/2018 17:13

Just need a bit of rant.

Just went to see PIL, who are leavers/Brexiters. We usually avoid the subject of Brexit.
But today I had a whole thing about how

  • the BBC is not impartial anymore (I’m assuming this means that the BBC isn’t supporting Leave enough??)
  • democracy is at risk (because the ‘will of the people’ might not be followed?)
  • ‘this is what I think. I knew it would hard for a bit but I accept that.’ Obviously not One thought about her DIL (me) or her dgc. Probably because she was convinced that I was british (after all I’ve been living here for so long I must be no?). And not a thought about the xenophobia her dgc are subjected to (because they are never seen as British but only French - even though they have dual citizenship and have never lived in France in their entire life)
  • oh and the reporting just mix things up so you dint have a clear picture and report false things (is that a reference to all the cock ups of the HO maybe that are clearly wrong??).
  • ah yes, my parents going to France, a country that they have left 40 years ago, that they have no relation with at all, is ‘probably a good thing in the long run. You know in 5 years or more’. Yay because having to leave the UK when the reason they came is to see me and their dgc is a good thing. Having to leave because you feel pushed out rather than that been an active decision is also good. It’s breaking their heart. It’s affecting their relationship with me and their dgc. But yes of course, it’s all good. Accepting the hardship etc.. is alway fine when it’s not you is it?

I have bitten my tongue so much for the sake of keeping some sort of good relationship. For H and the dgc.
But I’m fuming at the lack of understanding and the lack of recognition of the consequences their vote has on their own family/dgc.

Dc1 was saying he was thinking he should have told her that actually HE wanted to leave the U.K. because of Brexit. (Let’s say that thankfully he did not for the sake of their relationship).

I’m fed up.

End of the rant.

MyBrexitIsIll · 03/11/2018 17:17

Brexit diet could lead to 5,600 deaths a year as fresh fruit and veg prices shoot up
Well seen that no one ever mentioned the number of deaths linked with the reduction of services with the NHS, UC and social/care services, this is better than before.
Which also means it’s not going to be 5600. It’s going to be 560.000. (But they won’t matter and be hidden under ‘unexplained’ deaths)

WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 03/11/2018 17:52

mybrexitisill Flowers So so difficult to hold your tongue for the sake of your family relationships (I also have PIL issues Grin) Definitely helps to rant!

Mightybanhammer · 03/11/2018 17:57

It's gone weirdly quiet in terms of solid Brexit news . Is this a good thing or a bad thing do we think?

Hazardswan · 03/11/2018 17:57

Rant away mybrexit Flowers surprised your ears aren't bleeding having to listen to that shite. When empathy and reasoning gets dished out some get more than others and some get none at all.

Hazardswan · 03/11/2018 17:58

I think it's quiet hysteria as we hurl towards no deal mighty

DarlingNikita · 03/11/2018 18:02

I think it's quiet hysteria as we hurl towards no deal mighty

So is the noise about being close to an agreement on Ireland not true then? I don't know what to make of it. Arlene F has even weighed in to say it's going well. UI can't really imagine what sort of agreement they CAN come to, though; it seems to me to be an
intractable problem.

lonelyplanetmum · 03/11/2018 18:08

So Sorry you have that mybrexitisill After two years I failed to hold my tongue with FIL. In fact DH is visiting them this weekend and I didn't go (one of the DC had something on anyway). You sound like you're handling it so well though.

Tanith · 03/11/2018 18:09

Sorry Woman11017: I should have qualified that with "these days". I remember and acknowledge your mentioning it a while ago.

It's only that, with so many skeletons getting a good old Hallowe'en airing out of the cupboard, I'm very surprised that particular one hasn't emerged with the rest.

Hazardswan · 03/11/2018 18:19

Darling I think she's happy because she's getting her money and been kept sweet.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-good-friday-agreement-irish-border-leo-varadkar-eu-negotiations-a8615981.html

Irish PM Leo says we're 'fraying'

woman11017 · 03/11/2018 18:20

So many skeletons, Tanith Smile.
If anyone fancies a chat about the 'brexit' and the bbc here's their phone number. Wink
0370 010 0222

Hazardswan · 03/11/2018 18:25

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-deal-dup-arlene-foster-theresa-may-dominic-raab-eu-a8614786.html

Arlene hopes a deal on northern Ireland is close. Hopes. Wishy washy words get spun into positives.

Same thing happened when they said they were close to a financial agreement, pound rallied, turned out to be the usual blah blah not actually done blah blah. The likes of farage got richer.

I'm getting cynical in my aging brexit years Wink

DarlingNikita · 03/11/2018 18:32

Hazard, yes, I suppose she got her bung.

Yaralie · 03/11/2018 18:42

Why does no-one ask her exactly how she and her fellow bonkers brexiters are going to "bring back control of our borders"?

ElenadeClermont · 03/11/2018 18:58

MyBrexit Flowers
I am still holding my tongue at PILs, but it is getting harder.

MyBrexitIsIll · 03/11/2018 19:13

I’ve had in the past a rant from FIL about the Uk invaded by immigrants too.

On that one, MIL thought it was clearly too much and diverted the conversation talking about the vikings and how they had invaded us so so long ago Grin Because clearly FIL was talking about the Vikings lol.

The thing is, I dint think they realise. I might not have said anything. But I’m not forgetting.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 03/11/2018 19:29

Mybrexit. Flowers

I’m so grateful my PiLs are Remainers. SiL and her DH unfortunately are not and it has led to some awkward family dinners...

mathanxiety · 03/11/2018 19:32

I just sent a complaint to the BBC about the characterisation of the GFA - 'The GFA was signed by political parties in Northern Ireland in 1998 and was aimed at establishing peace after 30 years of The Troubles' - in this article www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-46083327. Not holding my breath for any sort of decent reply.

The effect of the mischaracterisation is the implication that Ireland is interfering in the internal affairs of NI in a way that threatens peace there.

BackInTime · 03/11/2018 20:22

Flowers MyBrexit and all those having to bite your tongue around family, friends and work colleagues. I have just had to patiently explain to PIL for the 100th time why there cannot be a hard boarder in NI and how they will not ‘just get over it’.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 03/11/2018 20:29

Had a somewhat disheartening experience last night. You know all those threads where people claim to have voted Remain but have changed their minds and would now vote Leave? I met one. I know for a fact he genuinely voted Remain.

Hazardswan · 03/11/2018 20:36

singing Shock

Did you kick him in the nuts? I think I would have....

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 03/11/2018 20:42

It’s all going to be fine apparently. It’s just a game of brinkmanship. It’s a question of who blinks first. I asked who he thought would blink first. He said, probably both Confused

mybrainhurtsalot · 03/11/2018 20:48

Fucking hell, how can anyone say they would switch to vote leave when it is so clearly disastrous? Was his reasoning?

mybrainhurtsalot · 03/11/2018 20:49

Cross post.