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Westminstenders: Crisis. What Crisis

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RedToothBrush · 25/10/2018 18:12

October is slowly rolling into November.

Your eyes, rightly, will be distracted by events the other side of the pond.

It won't be good and it won't be pretty and it will have an impact on what happens here in relation to Brexit in one way or another.

May seems to have headed off trouble makers for now. But that means nothing if she can't get a deal through parliament.

And if you think we are in anyway prepared for No Deal I'd like whatever drugs you are taking. That way lies only disorder and to put it bluntly, deaths.

We MUST find a deal, any deal to prevent that. Desperation is the final ingredients in this mess. Who will blink as they realise what's at stake?

The problem is though, is too few MPs have grasped what's at state, such is the quality of our elected representatives. And that's the truly terrifying bit.

If they can't work out the risk of no deal, they certainly not equipped to handle the fall out of no deal.

If you want to shit yourself anymore, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that the minister responsible for hauling all your food and medical supplies in the event if no deal, is Mr Christopher Grayling.

Start praying.

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SingingBabooshkaBadly · 31/10/2018 11:20

TBH, reading the email made my hair stand on end.

Er...what have I missed? Original post has been deleted. Could someone give me the gist please? (Or don’t I want to know?)

Mrsr8 · 31/10/2018 11:24

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SingingBabooshkaBadly · 31/10/2018 11:27

WTAF?

Met a lovely woman on the train back from the march and by the end of the journey had become facaebook friends with her. She is, I think, around 70 years old and has been in the U.K. since the age of 4. Born in another EU country but a naturalised Brit with a British passport. Have just seen her Facebook post. She has received a letter from the Home Office telling her that in order to confirm her status she has several options, one being to pay for a Windrush application. And they have her naturalisation date wrong by 17 years.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 31/10/2018 11:31

Mrsr8 is that ooooh because you also need to know or ‘oooh wouldn’t you like to know?’ Grin

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Agustarella · 31/10/2018 11:32

The draft WA said that FOM would continue until the end of any transition,
but Noakes appears to be saying that is no longer the case.

Maybe she's just confused, but I would not bet on FOM lasting past Brexit Day - so move before then if you plan to work in the EU.

Cross-posted with you yesterday @BigChoc, but I think you hit the nail on the head. Thank you very much for posting the No Deal Checklist.

SingingBabooshkaBadly · 31/10/2018 11:33

Or maybe you were oohing at low cost international driving licenses not at my question...Blush

DGRossetti · 31/10/2018 11:42

The draft WA said that FOM would continue until the end of any transition,

I think we can ignore anything that has been said unless it's as a signed document between the UK and EU. All else is "best endeavours".

Mrsr8 · 31/10/2018 11:42

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eyeballscauldron · 31/10/2018 11:50

SingingBabooshkaBadly
Apologies I didn't mean to be theatrical though it might have had that effect. Blush

Looks like Mark Sedwill's background in military and civilian emergency management will come in handy after Brexit. Explicit comparisons between himself and Maurice Hankey have been drawn in regards to his appointment. In case your history is a bit rusty (mine was) Maurice Hankey is best known as the highly efficient top aide to Prime Minister David Lloyd George and the War Cabinet that directed Britain in the First World War.

www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/sedwill-prioritises-impact-and-teamwork-first-message-permanent-cab-sec

*In his first message to civil servants since being permanently appointed to the role last week, Sedwill said he had seen in his previous roles – which include a spell as permanent secretary to the Home Office and ambassador to Afghanistan as well as his ongoing role as national security advisor – what can be achieved when all of the civil service works together.

"There are two themes that I want to guide our work and behaviour: impact and teamwork," his statement said. "From the combined civilian and military stabilisation units in Afghanistan, to the multi-agency safeguarding hubs caring for our most vulnerable citizens across the UK, I’ve seen what can be achieved when we operate across institutional boundaries, bringing people together from within the public service and in from the private and third sectors, unified by a common purpose to deliver real impact for our citizens and our country."

This will require the civil service to show “all our imagination, skills and experience, and, most of all, our values and our sense of duty”, his message, seen by CSW, stated. “Apply all those, generate the big ideas, focus on impact not inputs or institutions, build diverse and inclusive teams from across the public service and beyond, and, like our predecessors in other turbulent times, we will help change the country for the better.”

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:07

UK's aging nuclear reactors have 'reached threshold limit'

The UK is already a country where business can cut corners and take risks
I wonder if EDF would try this at home in France

After Brexit, this is a possible growth area:
taking h&s & environmental risks that would not be accepted elsewhere in Europe

Once permission is restored after Brexit, that is, for corporate and private jets, to whisk away all the wealthy, if need be

https://www.dw.com/en/uks-aging-nuclear-reactors-have-reached-threshold-limit/a-43675247

Nuclear plant operator EDF Energy is hoping to restart a reactor it had to close because of new cracks.

Experts have warned against extending the lives of old reactors, saying operators are "gambling with public safety."

DGRossetti · 31/10/2018 12:12

Nuclear plant operator EDF Energy is hoping to restart a reactor it had to close because of new cracks.

To be honest, I'm surprised the are enough people with the skills in the UK to start with. I suspect there will be even fewer this time next year.

Quietrebel · 31/10/2018 12:13

Wow, that would be incredibly stupid- France isn't that far from the UK anyway so would be of course exposed to fallouts in case (God forbid) there was an accident. Chernobyl's cloud didn't stop at borders.

DGRossetti · 31/10/2018 12:13

www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:13

DG Until the WA has been signed, all the promises about expat rights are meaningless.

The recent UK law about E27 Settlement could easily be revoked too, if unemployment spikes massively,
as it did under MrsT's de-industrialisation when so many firms went bust AND their suppliers
AND - this time - all the hairdressers, nailbars, cafes etc that depend on lots of people having spare

DGRossetti · 31/10/2018 12:17

Not formatted.

www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/barclays-seeking-to-move-250bn-business-to-republic-ahead-of-brexit-1.3680943

irishtimes.com
Barclays seeking to move €250bn business to Republic ahead of Brexit
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British bank Barclays will ask the UK’s high court in the coming months to allow it transfer business worth about €250 billion to the Republic as the lender steps up its Brexit preparations.

Barclays has already confirmed that it intends to move its non-UK European business to the Republic from Britain ahead of the country’s planned departure from the EU in March 2019.

The bank has applied to the UK high court for an order allowing it to transfer its European Economic Area (EEA) business to the Republic and expects this to be heard on January 22nd.

The hearing will cover corporate banking, investment banking, private clients and customers’ overseas business based in the EEA. Anyone who believes the plan will damage their interests can make their case at the January hearing.

According to reports last week, the move will involve the transfer of €250 billion in group assets to the Republic. The EEA comprises the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway.
Documents

Barclays Bank plc and its capital securities arm are responsible for the businesses involved. Documents outlining how the transfer will work state that those activities will move to Barclays Bank Ireland plc in the early months of next year.

From a client’s point of view, the main impact of the move will be that their contracts will be with Barclays Bank Ireland rather than the lender’s London-based divisions.

Barclays Bank Ireland will become the main entity through which the financial institution will deal with clients in the EEA or with customers who want access to those markets.

We expect Barclays Bank Ireland in its new incarnation to be fully operational before the UK exit in March 

Some existing liabilities of Barclays Bank plc and Barclays Capital Securities will also transfer to the Irish subsidiary.

However, the plc and Barclays Capital Securities will remain responsible for any litigation in which they are now involved, and will take charge of any court action relating to the period before the transfer to the Republic.
Oversees

The Central Bank of Ireland already oversees Barclays Bank Ireland plc.

Last week Barclays chief executive Jes Staley confirmed that the Central Bank had given the British lender the green light for its expansion here.

“We therefore expect Barclays Bank Ireland in its new incarnation to be fully operational before the UK exit in March,” Mr Staley told industry analysts during a discussion of the institution’s third-quarter results.

The bank is due to move into new offices at One Molesworth Street in Dublin city centre early next month. It had previously pledged to boost its workforce here by 200.

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:18

DG You are being negative 😏

Why do we need all those overpaid experts - many of whom are furrin < spits > - when there will be so many British people who can be "inspired" by UC into all those cushy jobs in nuclear power

It will save electricity too, if some of the Uk glows in the dark for the next hundred years

< continues writing the post-Brexit Tory manifesto >

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:20

Blimey, investors in Dublin property could do well.

Quietrebel · 31/10/2018 12:26

On the rights of citizens- I was hanging on to the prospect of naturalising as a sure fire guarantee of my rights (and that of my children). These threads have recently put serious dents in that hope. Seems we'll only ever be 2nd class citizens with citizenship questioned and revoked at will. Perhaps time we cut our losses. I'm increasingly thinking this doesn't have to be my fight.
Feels like tearing out a limb.

Thomasinaa · 31/10/2018 12:37

Can anyone explain why someone who has been naturalised and has a British passport isn't fully British, and is receiving letters from the Home Office? I don't get it.

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:37

QuietRebel ☹️💐

prettybird · 31/10/2018 12:41

I'm from the Windrush era - although a different Commonwealth country. I was naturalised in 1970 and have had my own British passport since 1974.

Should I be trying to find my naturalisation certificate? Shock God knows where it is Angry

bellinisurge · 31/10/2018 12:43

@prettybird - my late mother had "Right of Abode in the UK". She had a subject rather than a citizen in her passport. If your passport says citizen, that should be enough. If it says subject but with right of abode in the uk, that should be enough.

BigChocFrenzy · 31/10/2018 12:44

eyeball As a CS insider, can you explain why I don't see Brexit anywhere in even the 2017 UK govt National Risk Register ? 🤔

As a potential catastrophe it is both bigger and much much more likely than the other scenarios here

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/61934/nationallriskregister.pdf

1.12 The National Risk Register illustrates the kinds of contingency which primarily drive planning by government and the emergency services
and for which organisations, individuals, families and communities can reasonably plan if they want to do so.

The selection excludes some risks that are classified for reasons of national security and specific illustrative examples of risks where there are cases outstanding in the courts which may be prejudiced.
< bit of a stretch, but maybe excluded because of Tory Party national security ? >

1.13 The UK has been described as one of the pioneers in coordinated risk management for emergencies,
because of the systematic way in which we assess the risks and use these assessments to help planning.
< but now considered the village idiot >

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