Charting our nemesis

[lonelyplanetmum]

Which chart encapsulates this nightmare for you?

This is the pie chart that I showed my FIL when he was repeating Farage’s drivel. The government’s own 2016 figures showed how statistically insignificant our EU budget percentage contribution always was.

For quick reference

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTIPx0lI6pb-3Tn-3D6uNJNyKcCd-A8uPMxViagyJAR9T87ZmnSdAEPCzp5ljlNYoUNdxJiJqQdBm7b/pubhtml

Job loss spreadsheet from Brexit job losses including Jaguar Landrover

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Under WTO rules, British exports to the EU would be hit by tariffs of £6bn . Combined with the affect on Imports increases the cost of living in the UK.

5 simple charts on what WTO means here.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/19/what-a-no-deal-brexit-could-mean-for-the-uk-in-five-charts

Whilst England insists on implementing the will of 52% of people back in 2016- those most affected by all this show that 65% want to remain in the SM+CU

Haven't added a chart for a while. It seems too late now, but ...

At least this one will be an historical record of how certain politicians manipulated the true position.

This is s good one.

go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=threadreaderapp.com/thread/1087360379691380736.html

Sorry- link

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1087360379691380736.html

Fascinating thread. Thank you @lonelyplanetmum

Thank you- feel free to add any you come across.

Useful mind map.

From @ jon worth

Love this thread, thank you.

Thank you. Link to chart.

mobile.twitter.com/jonworth/status/1085868982647877632/photo/1

Useful quick reference list of WTO tariffs.

Useful chart showing our reliance on food imports.

This is a great thread lonely planet.

It's an interesting breakdown re food imports...would be interesting to see a further breakdown of the 30% originating from the EU i.e. the relative weight of prosecco, butter, chorizo, milk and stollen.

YouGov.

Just a chart to show the irony that we are trashing the economy (on the gov's own figures) despite the fact that there is now a further increase in the solid majority who would vote to retain EU membership. The Recent data is from a NatCen "poll of polls" and research from Morgan Stanley.


"The government is determined to exit the EU and Theresa May refuses to countenance letting the public revisit the question, even though the public is increasingly against Brexit."

Someone linked to the news from last November that FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) to the UK had dropped 19% in 2017 to below that of Germany, with France coming up fast on the UK's heels.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/01/brexit-could-cause-serious-damage-for-foreign-investment-into-the-uk-new-study-says.html

I wonder what the 2018 figures will be?

I found this graph last summer to add to this thread.

Looked up the most recent figures from Trading Economics....

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/foreign-direct-investment

Can't get my phone to zoom out to get a decent picture, but this snapshot gives an accurate feel of its trajectory

Thought provoking.
How have we actually benefited by focusing so much on trading with Germany, Spain etc in recent years?
Wouldn't we be better off concentrating on our trade with Ireland and Scandinavia - and the other world countries where we enjoy a trade surplus – the US, Australia, Switzerland, South Korea etc.

I'm not sure it helps to separate out individual EU countries as they're part of a ( very successful) trading bloc. Ireland and Sweden, Denmark,Finland ( Norway slightly different ) can't strike separate future trade deals. These would be part of an EU deal (if any)?

Our previous trade was 57% of exports and 66% of imports in with countries we have EU trade agreements (not under WTO).

fullfact.org/europe/does-most-uk-trade-happen-outside-eu-and-trade-agreements/

One thing I was going to say to Pretty was that what's interesting is the variety of sources on this thread ...all pointing in the same (downwards) direction.

The Info is from diverse sources including the govt itself, You.Gov, Business insider,WTO, Association of Irish Market research, ONS, Morgan Stanley, Financial Times, Natixis, the Economist, National audit office, HSBC, Oxford university, OECD, institute for government, Civitass, World economic forum etc etc etc.

Yet the government and many voters just don't listen. Taking the country as a whole, people like JRM, Leadsome, Redwood or features written by journo's in the Sun, Express and Mail all carry more gravitas than the above diverse sources... it's a weird imbalance.

I'm not sure it helps to separate out individual EU countries as they're part of a ( very successful) trading bloc.
True. When you put them all together and look at our trade deficit with them it looks like this . (From the Observer). The deficit is getting deeper and deeper.
So how do we actually benefit from being in this free trade bloc? Wouldn't we be better concentrating on trade with the rest of the world.