Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Who do you believe and where do you get your information from regarding Brexit ?

68 replies

frumpety · 26/09/2018 17:17

I have been wondering this for a while now. Which politicians do you believe ( if any ) , which news sources do you believe and where else do you get your information regarding Brexit from.

I am not a politician, journalist or academic. Smile

OP posts:
frumpety · 26/09/2018 21:02

Take the rather stupendously clever slogan 'Project fear' . I hear people still using this phrase, even though the UK is still a member of the EU. I hear people talking about stockpiling medicines and food supplies and saying this is also project fear, yet the government has requested that suppliers essentially do this. So do they not believe the government ? On the one hand surely it is madness that any UK government would put the UK in a position to need to do this and on the other hand be ever so slightly relieved that someone has ?

So if you voted leave and don't believe the government, where does that leave you and who do you believe ?

OP posts:
GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/09/2018 21:16

Agree with pp, the Irish press (times and lesser extent Indo)

jasjas1973 · 26/09/2018 21:29

I made up my mind fairly quickly, a brief look at leavers concerns and they all boil down to UK failings.

I prefer ITV news to BBC and Ch4 over both.

I like the ability to travel around Europe (and when i started, it was on a bike with little money and no job) i like their attitude to H&S, their road network, their health services and i think "why hasn't the UK got these?" and the answer is we redistribute wealth from the poor to to the Wealthy....

So today T.May is boosting to International business leaders that she is cutting Corporation tax from 19 to 17%... she is giving our taxes to Google and Amazon et el! that doesn't benefit anyone but the richest and to the fools believing Brexit will solve their woes? you are in for a wide awakening.

jasjas1973 · 26/09/2018 21:30

*boasting!

YeOldeTrout · 26/09/2018 21:52

Aren't we all on to Project "It's not the End of the World" ? Wink

MongerTruffle · 26/09/2018 21:53

Full Fact

mellongoose · 26/09/2018 21:56

I work in Parliament.

Mightybanhammer · 26/09/2018 22:01

BBC coverage is now so very biased am appalled some can't see it.

I read blogs: beerg, Chris grey, Eu referendum. The Westminsterenders threads on here are v informative.

C4. The independent.

Ta1kinpeace · 26/09/2018 22:03

Mighty
Which way is the BBC biased?

Mightybanhammer · 26/09/2018 22:04

i work in Parliament

Cough civil service / min code cough

astoundedgoat · 26/09/2018 22:07

Take a look at Jim_Cornelius on Twitter for some amazing stuff on tariffs and some cold hard facts about EU v non EU imports and the laws surrounding them. Very illuminating! Especially after lemongate yesterday.

Mightybanhammer · 26/09/2018 22:11

BBC coverage is v anti remain. I am old. I used always to stick up for auntie but she is now utterly compromised
Two recent examples
Barnstorming i view with head of food and drink trade ass broadcast first on farming today at 5,50- nor replayed in news bulletins. Died a death.
Starmers standing ovation at lab conf yesterday when he said remain still an option - omitted from their written coverage of his speech.

Buteo · 26/09/2018 22:43

Steve Peers (EU law) and Peter Ungphakorn (WTO and trade) are good to follow on Twitter.

Mistigri · 26/09/2018 23:42

I agree that there are some very good commenters on Twitter with legal and trade expertise.

Mainstream UK media is pretty hopeless, with the exception of the FT. The Irish press is better.

frumpety · 27/09/2018 06:36

Thank you for all the suggestions Smile

OP posts:
borntobequiet · 27/09/2018 07:05

When I taught Critical Thinking A Level, I used to prepare completely balanced texts on contentious topics such as fox hunting. I went to great lengths to eliminate any bias, including in use of language, and provided credible sources for evidence. Despite this, the majority of students given these texts to read claimed they were biased. The bias they thought they detected was always counter to their own point of view, and it was because the text did not at any point overtly support that point of view.

Helmetbymidnight · 27/09/2018 07:17

Generally I get most info from the Guardian and MN!
Properly laughed out loud at that

Grin

Where do you get your ‘information’ from infinite. I remember your posts from two years ago. “out - Now’ you said. You didn’t see the point in any kind of deal, did you? You must be very pleased.

Grin
Helmetbymidnight · 27/09/2018 07:18

Radio 4. I don’t find they challenge lying politicians enough though.

frumpety · 27/09/2018 07:40

Borntobequiet I can feel myself doing what your students did when reading stuff on here sometimes, I have to reset my thinking. Smile

OP posts:
borntobequiet · 27/09/2018 08:05

Frumpety so do I, though I should know better!
But I have learned from MN about giving my head a wobble so I do that to reset.

YeOldeTrout · 27/09/2018 08:27

I totally believe that born2bquiet.
I don't find BBC biased but they are dealing with a set of listeners that WANT post-truth, are "tired of experts" and that honestly believe Brexit is worth any price. BBC mandate to challenge isn't very big.

bellinisurge · 27/09/2018 08:45

3Blokes on YouTube. RTÉ.

lonelyplanetmum · 27/09/2018 16:37

That is a brilliant summary.

My book group read the eye opening book Dark Money ( Meyer) about the US and the influence of a very few powerful people on politics. A friend said " could the same as happens in the book happen here?" . I replied in the negative - but I was wrong.

jasjas1973 · 27/09/2018 20:46

@Sarahlou6

That's a fantastic article, i did wonder what had happened to Hitchens recently.
Thank you for posting.

Swipe left for the next trending thread