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Who do you believe and where do you get your information from regarding Brexit ?

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frumpety · 26/09/2018 17:17

I have been wondering this for a while now. Which politicians do you believe ( if any ) , which news sources do you believe and where else do you get your information regarding Brexit from.

I am not a politician, journalist or academic. Smile

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wurzelburga · 26/09/2018 17:32

If you want factual stuff on eg How do I travel with my dog in the event of a no deal, sign up for updates at BREXIT gov.uk

Beyond that, nobody is in any position to say what will happen because no-one yet knows what any deal or no deal will look like.

But the world will not come to an end on March 29

1tisILeClerc · 26/09/2018 17:40

Researching far and wide is a reasonable plan.
Reading the online versions of European newspapers is a good start. It is easy enough to grab chunks of text and use an online translator.
Compare and contrast. Take everything, especially from any UK politicians with a pinch of salt (or a vat of gin!).

frumpety · 26/09/2018 17:47

wurzel thank you, I think the government has released technical notices for the event of a no deal scenario as well. Have you read any of them?

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Sarahlou63 · 26/09/2018 17:48

This is a good article - blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/09/25/brexit-has-become-unnegotiable-theresa-may-has-a-constitutional-duty-to-admit-that-truth/

Generally I get most info from the Guardian and MN!

surferjet · 26/09/2018 17:52

The devil & the ghost of Genghis Khan.

Ta1kinpeace · 26/09/2018 17:52

The Economist
New Scientist
The BBC
The Guardian
The New York Times
The Washington Post
Private Eye
The Daily Mail (as lots of politicians feed them)

NO political parties
NO politicians
NO commentators

I like following up links from MN and seeing where they lead
my Linkedin feed is quite good

My FB feed is very biased so I read it but take with a pinch of salt

Alienspaceship · 26/09/2018 17:53

I listen to the Governor of the Bank of England.

1tisILeClerc · 26/09/2018 17:54

If you go on the Gov website and say you want to receive updates they flood into your inbox 'automatically'.
This might be it: [email protected]

frumpety · 26/09/2018 17:54

Also if no-one knows what will happen in the event of a deal or no deal how can they tell you how you can travel with a dog to the EU ? Do you see what I mean wurzel

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frumpety · 26/09/2018 17:56

Surfer do you have to use google translate for Ghengis ?

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1tisILeClerc · 26/09/2018 18:00

View any mentions of unicorns or vast wealth coming to the 'ordinary' people of the UK with suspicion. There MAY be some upsides but in general they are likely to be outweighed by downsides.

lonelyplanetmum · 26/09/2018 18:09

I follow up links from MN and Facebook too.

But since this whole debacle I no longer rely exclusively on the BBC although it’s improved lately. So over the last two years I have tried to look at a range of sources including :

Trade websites- WH Smith have an on line list and you can google their websites.So things like Cranes today, Farmers’ weekly or whatever tend to have knowledgeable specialist comment!

The FT
The Economist
The Guardian
The New York Times
The Washington Post
Al Jazeera
The Australian
The New European

Radio 4

Then if I want to really understand something primary source materials so white papers, draft bills, impact assessments, explanatory notes.Watch select committees.

Stuff from the LSE is good. Chatham house website too.

Itchytights · 26/09/2018 18:11

BBC is hugely and unfairly biased.
I think their coverage is disgraceful especially so as we pay licenses so they should be completely impartial.

user1499173618 · 26/09/2018 18:13

All over the place. I’m going to lunch with a British Ambassador and an MP tomorrow to talk about citizens’ rights post Brexit.

Ta1kinpeace · 26/09/2018 18:16

itchytights
Which direction is the BBC Biased?
pro remain or pro Brexit?
Just that I know people in both camps who accuse it of supporting the other.
Tories say it is left wing
Corbynites say its Blairite

if both extremes hate it I suspect its pretty bang on the middle Grin

Childrenofthesun · 26/09/2018 18:16

Washington Post and NYT have much better opinion pieces than any of the British papers

1tisILeClerc · 26/09/2018 18:35

I feel the BBC have taken a strange stance on 'not being biassed'. Meaning that it is moderately even but to compensate it is always later than other news outlets and the coverage is less 'in depth'.
The black death wasn't all bad, some escaped it.

frumpety · 26/09/2018 19:16

I have to admit to having stopped watching BBC news, it wasn't asking the questions that I felt should be asked with regards to Brexit. I do still listen to Radio 4 on the way to work, I have spent a lot of time shouting at people who can't hear me and wouldn't care even if they could as a result Smile

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prettybird · 26/09/2018 19:18

I also look at the statements from the pesky experts.

Like this one from the Food and Drink Federation in response to the latest "Technical" paper and its implications for food supplies. Hmm

http://www.fdf.org.uk/news.aspx?article=8062

Spoiler alert: it's not happy reading. Sad

Sarahlou63 · 26/09/2018 19:31

Oh, and Channel 4 news is a must.

HalfStar · 26/09/2018 19:46

Would strongly suggest you also read the Irish newspapers. Irish Times best for Brexit analysis imo.

Would promote a much better understanding of the significance of the backstop if more folk were actively seeking out the Irish news. Am sure the NYT etc coverage is good but better understanding will come from writers near the actual region.

YeOldeTrout · 26/09/2018 20:46

Probably who I follow reflects my native bias, anyway.

Martin Lewis (the MSE guy) is well-respected for trying to come up with very balanced viewpoints (but he doesn't comment on Brexit a lot since 2016).

Robert Peston is often said to be someone who tries to be objective in his Brexit assessments.

If you think Brexit is great because it FEELS right, then you'll interpret & communicate everything that happens thru that bias (that the overwhelming feeling makes it all ok). If you think Brexit is horrible because it's obviously logically completely self-destructive, you can't help but interpret everything else that happens thru that overwhelming conclusion. It's hard not to be biased with such strong over-riding impressions of what it all means.

frumpety · 26/09/2018 20:55

YeOldeTrout I think that's what I find difficult as someone whose job involves lots of facts but also feelings, I get the whole feelings bit about Brexit , but we all have access to the same information, the same facts and figures, why are some believed by some people and not other people ? What makes a news source credible to some and is derided by others ?

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Ta1kinpeace · 26/09/2018 20:59

Confirmation Bias is a significant thing

If you read the science press you'll know that giving people more facts does not often change their minds

InfiniteSheldon · 26/09/2018 21:01

Generally I get most info from the Guardian and MN!
Properly laughed out loud at that Grin.

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