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so no international shipping, as well as no international flights...

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coldrain2018 · 14/09/2018 00:00

well, we all knew that a no deal Brexit would mean no international flights could take off or land in the UK, but the technical notices released today indicate that actually, there are going to be huge issues with international shipping docking here, or our ships docking elsewhere, too.

I don't know the details, but it would seem to be limited to shipping between UK and EU, so ships from China, etc, as I understand it could still dock here with existing paperwork.So not a complete, universal across the board ban like with flights

what does this mean for cross channel ferries? on the face of it, that hey couldn't operate? There is also going to be a problem with ferries operating from the EU with British crews on board, so a French cross channel ferry, for example, couldn't sail with British crew members, and maybe couldn't sail at all?

If anyone has any insider knowledge of this sector please explain! AS far as I knew, the reason Kent County council have brought in the toilets and barriers and everything to close their motorways is to give feight lorries somewhere to wait, as all freight would be crossing the channel rather than entering UK through the air.so the volumes were going to go up hugely.

That doesn't tally with no international shipping between UK and EU... ferries are not going to sail to China! Or are the lorries going to be there to UNLOAD cargo ships from china?

someone please explain!

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AndhowcouldIeverrefuse · 24/09/2018 22:04

I saw the aviation guy on Channel 4 news... I have never seen anyone look so uncomfortable on TV. He look like he wanted to run away! Didn't exactly fill me with confidence.

littlebillie · 24/09/2018 22:08

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx4AF-3Rd44

littlebillie · 24/09/2018 22:09

This sums it up, good bye first world it was lovely while it lasted

1tisILeClerc · 24/09/2018 22:18

I suppose it would be cruel to suggest putting a load of telescopes on the white cliffs of Dover at the end of March so you can see 'Johnny and the foreigners' having a good time.

FloralCup · 24/09/2018 22:26

The news article on the BBC says that bus and coach journeys could also be suspended. It doesn't mention ferries. Why would the buses be affected? Is it to do with the tunnel?

AdoraBell · 24/09/2018 22:28

😁 1st my ILs would be tut-tutting at those forriners.

woman11017 · 24/09/2018 22:35

news.sky.com/story/uk-coach-operators-could-be-barred-from-operating-within-eu-in-no-deal-brexit-11507783 One technical note described how UK bus and coach operators might not be able to run services within the EU if an agreement isn't reached

The document states the UK aims to join the EU's Interbus agreement as an independent member by 29 March next year, but this might be delayed www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/no-deal-brexit-day-one-what-happens-economy-transport-nhs-eu-citizens-a8463636.html

FloralCup · 24/09/2018 22:43

Thanks woman

woman11017 · 24/09/2018 22:47
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Chocolatepeanuts · 24/09/2018 22:53

Hmmm looks like we should have booked flights from dublin instead of belfast for our holidays in may next year Hmm

FloralCup · 25/09/2018 08:04

From reading the guidance paper regarding bus travel: if no deal then potentially any coach journey would involve passengers walking off the ferry and getting on a European bus.
Does that mean that no coach could use the euro tunnel (I assume buses go through the there) as they would have to be driven off at the end?

FishesaPlenty · 25/09/2018 08:33

The news article on the BBC says that bus and coach journeys could also be suspended. It doesn't mention ferries. Why would the buses be affected? Is it to do with the tunnel? It's the same issue as with freight transport by road. Operators and drivers come under EU regulations - CPCs, tachos, operator licencing etc.

juneau · 25/09/2018 19:08

Aviation boss saying on Channel 4 news that he’s not worried about International flights after we leave Europe - well, obviously. He’s hardly going to tell people not to book flights, is he!

Precisely! They're going to keep saying 'Everything's in hand - don't worry', right up until the day the flights are grounded, because they absolutely don't want passengers to stop booking flights. They want your money, whether they provide you with a flight or not. Their biggest worry is that passengers figure out that purchasing flights, particularly for the few weeks after 30th March, is a big risk, and decide to hang fire on their holiday plans until they know what's happening. Well, my money is staying in my pocket until then, thanks very much!

Satsumaeater · 26/09/2018 17:59

Their biggest worry is that passengers figure out that purchasing flights, particularly for the few weeks after 30th March, is a big risk, and decide to hang fire on their holiday plans until they know what's happening. Well, my money is staying in my pocket until then, thanks very much

Exactly. I think the message must be filtering through though - didn't someone say somewhere that she had looked at booking a trip to Tenerife in the Easter holidays and there was far more availability than usual?

The Germans must be delighted about this, prices will go down for them because the hotelliers in the resorts will need to fill their rooms, and there will be no arguments over towels on sunbeds (joke) and they won't have to put up with drunk British people. Lets face it, it's a win for the rest of Europe isn't it.

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