A questions about brexit - flights

[Stripybeachbag]

Can you buy flights between Europe and the UK after 29th March 2019? I checked a couple of airlines, e.g. Heathrow - Paris, and none were available. I haven't obviously got the time to check all routes with all airlines. Has anyone bought a holiday or flight after March next year?

the European Aviation Safety Agency only covers civilian planes and flights, so the UK government could, in theory, nationalise all UK planes, airports etc and declare them part of the RAF? Presumably that would restrict their use to military airports only overseas

What? The RAF cannot carry commercial passengers or freight. Foreign commercial aircraft cannot land at a RAF base. It would take months to security clear the ground handling staff to allow them to work on a military installation (Heathrow alone employs 76,000 people), £billions would have to be paid in compensation to the airport owners, most 'UK' aircraft are actually registered elsewhere in Europe or owned by European companies (BA is Spanish, Easyjet is Austrian, TUI is German, Ryanair is Irish) ....

Meanwhile, someone finally seems to have got Mrs May's attention;

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no-deal-brexit-planes-grounded-theresa-may-philip-hammond-crash-out-world-trade-organisation-a8509041.html

Hasn't the aviation industry been trying to warn May for months and months, and not been able to get a hearing?

Havanananana, I was writing tongue in cheek, but wouldn't be surprised if this was the sort of thing the incompetent government came up with.

The saying, 'the lights are on but nobody's home' might apply here.
The costs of any 'half measures' to resolve any short term issues will be astronomic. Post a letter second class (because you thought about it and have an extra day or two to get it there) and it is one price. First class because you hadn't prepared and it goes up what 50 percent?
In an industry as 'price conscious' as this, especially as the UK economy is on the slide is another way to commit economic suicide.
It is really down to the 'nuts and bolts, as every single one in an aircraft has to have it's proper documentation to enable it to be 'legal' to fly.

I was writing tongue in cheek

Thank goodness for that. For a moment I thought that this was another loopy Brexiter solution - British passenger flights by RAF-Air, no doubt escorted by splendid chaps flying Spitfires and Hurricanes

If we find ourselves in the situation that flights out of the UK are grounded, then I think not being able to go on holiday will be least of our worries, the economy would be well and truly fucked.

@Havana
You are doing yourself a disservice, women cab be pilots in the airforce, why should men have all the fun?
Besides it will be pretty safe as it will only be JRM and the ERG manning the anti aircraft guns.

can not cab!

will only be JRM His Nanny, Surely?

Easyjet has found a way to deal with Brexit, register all their aircraft as Austrian and transfer the operations to an Austrian based company. I wonder how many jobs and how much tax that cost the UK.

@Solo
As a 'regular' you obviously realise that Easyjet registering in Austria won't help the POSSIBLE madness of the failure to get the certifications transferred if there is no deal but worse, signifies that after the initial dust has settled, Easyjet profits stay in Europe, representing a loss of income to the UK.
In a way it is not the headline grabbing stuff like the possible flight disruption, it is the thousands of small details such as this that will cause the real long term damage. Confidence in the UK will plummet.

Oh, this is just for Easyjet to carry on it's intra European flights, in no way will it help flying in and out of the UK if/when we crash out of the EU in a chaotic no deal situation where the CAA can not certify our aircraft to fly.

My point was that Easyjet has been a great success story, it is a pity they are shifting abroad because of Brexit. British Airways is already owned by a Spanish company so are less affected. I wonder if those who supported Brexit are proud that our national flag carrier is soon going to be Jet2 or FlyBe?

I'm really worried about this now. I've got a bucket list holiday booked for August and am seriously wondering about cancelling it and doing something else over February half term before all this kicks off. Sensible course of action do you think?

The 'wind direction' needs to be pretty much finalised by early November by which time things should be a lot clearer.
If you can wait until then to decide/change it might be best.

I know how you feel Carol. We have holiday of lifetime to Japan booked for April! Been saving up for years. It's our silver wedding. So excited when we booked last April. Feeling a bit sick now. We are flying with Japan Airlines - does anyone think that will make a difference?

@1tisILeClerc that's helpful, thanks. Will do that.

@BerylThePeril44 sorry to hear that. This one is to a place I have wanted to go to since I was 8 years old. I've always said that if I could go there, I would be happy to never holiday again but now it's all so up in the air. I'm a bit gutted I have to say.

Sorry Beryl IF it is a 'no deal' it will be ALL airlines that are affected.
Airports , aircraft, pilots etc are all currently certified through the EU so no deal means no flights.
A semblance of sanity might break out but it won't show until November.
In a way if it truly is a 'no deal' then there will be a lot of radical changes.

Jacob Rees-Mogg has said that everything will be hunky-dory in fifty years time. We can re-book our holidays for then. With our blue passports!