Westminstenders: In the Brexit Lane

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I honestly couldn't think of a better starter to the thread than simply just this tweet

Robert Peston @ peston
We’ve got an official opposition tearing itself apart over antisemitism, the founder of the EDL running rings around the judiciary and a government negotiating a Brexit plan that its own MPs and ministers tell me is dead. When will we pull ourselves together, as a nation?

But don't worry, your blue passport will get you an extra special long wait at passport control. And no deal could lead to continued freedom of movement anyway. Something for everyone in there.

Why can't I feel sorry for Grease-Smug?

At the same time, I feel it's a worrying trend, but one which has been encouraged by the rabid right wingers. Although one of the comments says that his people probably did it to keep him in the news - a bit like the Nazis being accused of starting the Reichstag fire because it suited them.

No definitely not a golden age and I don't do nostalgia anyway, I think it is just that being in the fight for women's rights felt like such a good place to be. We were in a big northern city and though I was working in an inner-city school with a high level of deprivation, employment levels were still relatively high. The real problems came with Thatcher.

I absolutely agree that it is the feckless and wanton destruction of everything that has been achieved that is the worst thing about Brexit.

My mum was always against the legalisation of assisted dying because she feared pressure would be applied to disabled people. Both my parents were disabled and were once told by a social worker that they were very selfish people who had only had children to take care of them.

Said social worker then tried to have us taken into care, despite the fact that our parents were the ones on the estate who did the most with their children. In fact our home was like the local youth group and they often took local kids on day trips with us.

She didn't succeed but it made my mum see that all it takes is one official to decide what they think is best for you and you are in a difficult position.

We did end up caring for both my parents before they died, but it wasn't anything more, and probably less, than most people do for their parents. The only difference was that I was late twenties, rather than late fifties. And I never begrudged it because of all the wonderful things my parents did for us, even though it was hard for them, they were determined we wouldn't miss out.

Here are the head honchos from vote leave. Gisela Stuart (chairman), Matthew Elliott (CEO), Dominic Cummings, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson.

And don't forget Chloe Westley, who was head of social media at the Vote Leave campaign. She has now moved on to the thinktank TaxPayers' Alliance, which scores pretty low on the transparency of its funding.

whofundsyou.org/org/taxpayers-alliance

@KennDodd

it was from Facebook ...

www.facebook.com/thebritishumpire/posts/1833872070035175

My mum was always against the legalisation of assisted dying because she feared pressure would be applied to disabled people.

in 1995, DWs consultants first question on hearing she was pregnant was "When shall we schedule a termination for, then ?"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45085205

European foreign affairs chiefs have pledged to protect firms against the impact of US sanctions for doing business with Iran.

An EU "blocking statute" will take effect on Tuesday to nullify US legal action against European firms in connection with Iran.

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So in a no-deal scenario, any UK firms doing business in Iran lose this protection ?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/06/uk-poised-to-ask-russia-to-extradite-salisbury-attack-suspects?CMP=share_btn_tw

UK poised to ask Russia to extradite Salisbury attack suspects

Exclusive: Kremlin certain to reject request that will reignite simmering diplomatic row

Conor James McKinney
‏*@mckinneytweets*

For those who saw my recent semi-viral tweet about the Home Office not considering Irish citizens settled in the UK. Good news: the department has now repented and apologised

[[https://twitter.com/mckinneytweets/status/1026501248902684673

People in their 50s would have been 14 or under in 1973 btw so probably don’t remember the harsh realities. I remember there being a referendum but had not much idea what it was really about.

Plus most people I know of in that age group were remain voters.

People in their 50s would have been 14 or under in 1973 btw so probably don’t remember the harsh realities.

I can remember power cuts, and next door neighbours car (Ford) being off the road every other week because some part or another wasn't available because of strikes.

I remember the power cuts. I remember burning my hair when doing my homework by candlelight.

I was in my twenties and bringing up a young family. It was not grim. There were challenges but they did not last for the whole decade. We were politically engaged and changing things for the better, not destroying what we already had. That is the difference.

I lived in a declinig cotton town in the North-West and was at uni in the early 70s. I remember sitting in a fur coat (dead cheap in Oxfam shops, it was a hippy thing pour épater les bourgeois!) in my digs just trying to keep warm. In fact, the only time I regularly went to the uni library was during the power cuts, as they had an emergency generator. Also remember once the lights going off in the uni book shop, followed by the sound of books falling off the shelves as people nicked them in the dark.

Of course, I was young (and pretty stoned most of the time), so I do have golden memories, but the world was very grey and beige and pretty run down. When I went to Germany in 1974, I remember being surprised at how clean, modern and colourful it seemed. I remarked to my dad that I was surprised to see how few clapped-our cars there were on the roads.Why anyone should hanker after those times or see them as some halcyon days before we capitulated to the EU is beyond me.

Oh yes, and it was only when I went to uni that I lived somewhere with a flushing toilet. Ours was basically a large bucket in an outside shed. Ypu certainly never stayed in there long, too cold in winter and too pongy in summer .

You are describing the 50s for me Mrs8. No inside toilet, no bathroom, cramped housing, plus living, as so many of my comtemporaries did, with a father traumatised and sometimes violent from his experiences in the war. I was a child, I was unhappy, but my experiences did not make the fifties a terrible decade for everyone.

Well being born in 1951 I can remember the latter half of the fifties. I recall it being monotonous more than anything. There were good things - we went to a fairly newly built school, which was well equipped. There were about 5 people in the road of 40 odd houses that had a car, but three of these were running businesses and needed the car for work. Since we lived near the sea, holidays for most were day trips to the beach.The thing about it was, that most people were in the same boat.

Things seemed to turn a corner in the sixties; the bomb sites that I remembered from visiting grandparents in Sheffield were all disappearing and propped up gable ends of bombed buildings were being repaired. This was a good 15 years after the war, mind you. Then towards the late sixties, it began to go wrong: unskilled and semi-skilled work started to be lost to firms in the far east. A firm like M&S used to make a point of always buying British. I did summer jobs in textile factories where M&S orders provided good piece work rates because the quality was good, but they were exacting customers. If they said their lorry was coming for the completed order at 3, that's when it came, no being late, or you would lose the repeat order. Now nearly all of their clothes are made elsewhere. It might even be all, not nearly all. I can't see any way that they will shift production back - if they survive changing retail patterns, that is.

However much the Brexiters think, these days won't come back. Except that the Goves, Johnsons, Rees-Moggs are all wealthy men and will be able to ride out the storm.

So it seems that people involved in the bookshop attack have been identified - and a few of them are UKIPers.

Jo Phillips @ joglasg

The guy filming is Mark Martin aka Buska In The Park

I also see Max 'Red Cap Boy'
Elizabeth Jones of UKIP's NEC
Sharon Klaff
Martin Costello (UKIP Swindon candidate 2018)
Edward Howard (MBGA Youth Leader)

5/8/2018 18:02

She also names Luke Nash Jones (also a UKIP member).

Brexit. Taking back control. 😳 It's also being reported that Luke Nash has been interviews by the BBC on some subject or other.

Thugs. Far Right thugs. Anyone who has a hand in making these people mainstream and acceptable is despicable.