To ask if those panicking about Brexit realise they've been had?

[Growingboys]

Honestly, it's pathetic.

This is Project Fear mark 2, spin designed to stop Brexit happening. Politicians and wonks hope that if they spread enough fear around, which is what all these ridiculous 'prepping' threads are, they will stop us leaving the EU.

Everybody needs to calm the fuck down, stop digging their underground food stores/adding some more tins to the Ocado order, and realise this is spin, pure and simple. The world will continue to turn, and food will continue to be on supermarket shelves, regardless of what happens with Brexit.

I am very sad at the lack of sense and backbone so many people are showing here, regardless of views on Brexit.

I'm off to have a gin and put my feet up. I might even eat something from my freezer tonight rather than save it for armageddon #dicingwithdeath

As I can imagine there is a bit of hyperbole, my sons Epilepsy medication comes from Poland (as there is no stocks in the UK) and my dh works in engineering which relies on the eu market.

So please don't tell me I'm being silly worrying about the future.

You know what, i'll be honest here.

I'll be quite happy to look a twat in my bean tin fort come April next year.

But no one can currently guarantee that for me.

With that in mind, and given the government's plan to outsource stockpiling to the private sector, who have already said it's just not viable, if there does turn out to be a problem, I can't take that risk.

I have a 3 year old.

I can do certain things to reduce risk for my family, so i'll build a bean fort. And hope I don't need it.

Besides which if I stockpile now, if we do have an issue it helps others who can't by reducing demand at the crisis point.

I don't think we'll be any the wiser as to how this will go before late Dec. At the earliest.

I view the whole thing, not dissimilar to people who shop for Christmas throughout the whole year.

Some people don't do that and buy everything on Christmas Eve. The stress of that I find unmanageable and not particularly effective in buying good gifts. I don't buy through the year. I usually start in mid Aug and finish up by mid November. In part to avoid problems with deliveries turning up too late. Thus spreading the cost and stress.

That's just my general world view, and to expect me to act differently over Brexit is like asking me to change my personality.

I want to keep sane whilst offsetting the worst outcome.

Others will have more serious concerns over medication and will want to plan accordingly.

Not everyone can afford blind faith and to ignore the possibility of risk.

Attacking people for looking at a situation and trying to plan for all possible scenarios is just nasty.

We don't shout at people who take out holiday insurance. If you don't have it, and need it, then the consequences can be pretty dire.

This is the same thing.

I wouldn't drive without insurance, I wouldn't travel without insurance, I wouldn't have no house insurance.

I bloody begrudge paying it, and you rarely need it, but you are buying peace of mind. And im all for that.

PS My Bean Fort is going to be magnificent. I will keep it with a sense of humour. And maybe get a flag for it.

It must be rather relaxing, being too stupid to worry.

^^ this comment is aging well

Agree. Everyone is overreacting OP.

Let's face it, at this point, with the writing a mile-high on the wall, anyone who STILL thinks Brexit is a good idea is highly unlikely to have many useful observations to share, frankly.

As neatly confirmed by every single Brexit thread.

And of course, the restaurants and takeaways won't be at all cashing in (provided they have enough supplies).

Or maybe we'll be back to British Restaurants in portakabins?

Yes you leave a relationship you may have to sleep on as friends sofa and get drunk everynight. And then it gets better
No one likes change but you'd be very wrong to think some good won't come out it eventually even if it takes a generation.

And I prepare for the middle bit. That bit in the middle where something falls apart? I prepare for that.
I hate that Brexit or ANother bad situation (relationship breakdown, job loss, sudden serious illness) is going to happen but I prepare for the middle bit and just get on with it.
I see exactly why people who don’t know how to prepare for unexpected elements in life worry.

I work in healthcare, there are real worries on the floors of our wards.

And just a reminder for those who are too young to remember, there was life in Britain before the EU and NOthe world didn’t stop. Entering the EU did not save the UK, it just changed things up. Same thing happens when the UK ad EU depart ways.
People, it will be just fine.

honey

The Y2k comment has already been made (i think )

I'm with you Red toothbrush. If it gets to next June and we're still eating beans, I suggest a country wide bring a plate style street party where we can all gorge ourselves on spam fritters and pasta bakes.

And why do some posters have such a vested interest in poo pooing the stockpile comments

Is it actually a problem if some people want to stockpile?

Im not stockpiling but im not getting overexcited and getting snotty with people who are

And I will leave it there. Enjoy the debate and stockpiling folks. If it gives you some peace then keep going. Time will only tell how resourceful the stockpiling was.

We will of course fall back on WTO agreement of course. It MAY be that we pay more tariffs on some things, less on others, but it is the accepted framework that works with 164 member countries.

What do you know about the WTO rules, rainforest?

Had you even heard of them before the referendum?

I’m always a bit at people blithely going “we’ll fall back in WTO rules” when they clearly haven’t got a fucking clue what those rules actually are or how reading on WTO rules would be different to our current trading position.

Save us all from the armchair experts.

I'm old enough to remember Britain being in a fairly crap place before joining the EU. That's why we joined, it wasn't just for fun.

Also if you haven't noticed the world has moved on in the the last 40 years and if Jacob Rees Idiot is to be believed it will be 50 years by the time we see any benefit. I'll be dead by then. My children are also deeply grateful that their whole working lives will be blighted by this.

MNHQ have to realise that Brexit is THE BIGGEST story in the UK for the next year
it cannot be shuffled off to a quiet corner

Oh and that insurance comment was spot on

(Was it this thread...there seem to be a few threads having a pop at people who like to make contingency plans)

rainforesttreeswinging

You really do seem to be one of the most nasty, gullible, sausage box full of vitriol, fools that I have encountered.

You are really, really, really boring.

So the 2.8% tariff will destroy us? Are we going to war with the eu? Is food not really expensive now? I doubt lidle and aldi are packing up and leaving. Businesses will find an alternate trade.

Remember when the euro was to be uniformed? Huge mistake apparently. Turned out our pound was stronger!!

How do Northern ireland carry out their trade with Europe? England! How many jobs rely on England in Europe? Thousands!

Europe has been finalising a free trade deal with Japan since 2012. It's not exclusive. Scaremongering is what will set us back. Not Brexit.

They want it to be true the stickpileing
The locus

So they can sit in their hazmat suits and say

I told you this would be a disaster while they hunt for food using the spear they made out of their Boden umbrella

Their fucking loons

I tell you where will be fucked if all this scaremongering nonsense carries on for much longer.

Mumsnet.

Between this....I haven’t even the words really....Il say ‘Brexit debate’ and the AMA threads it’s becoming utterly unreadable drivel.

it's no good filling the freezer there'll probably be no electricity stick to spam and beans :-)

@LuluJakey1

The EU rely on our market more than we rely on theirs for most things

Why are you repeating this nonsense that was debunked back in 2016?

I'll let Theresa May explain it to you:

“We export more to Ireland than we do to China, almost twice as much to Belgium as we do to India, and nearly three times as much to Sweden as we do to Brazil. It is not realistic to think we could just replace European trade with these new markets”

“In a stand-off between Britain and the EU, 44 per cent of our exports is more important to us than eight per cent of the EU’s exports is to them. The economic arguments are clear. Being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. One of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe.” ‘

“The reality is that we do not know on what terms we would win access to the single market. We do know that in a negotiation we would need to make concessions in order to access it, and those concessions could well be about accepting EU regulations, over which we would have no say, making financial contributions, just as we do now, accepting free movement rules, just as we do now, or quite possibly all three combined. It is not clear why other EU member states would give Britain a better deal than they themselves enjoy.”

Theresa May - May 2016.

They want it to be true the stickpileing
The locus
So they can sit in their hazmat suits and say
I told you this would be a disaster while they hunt for food using the spear they made out of their Boden umbrella
Their fucking loons

It's like a beautiful and yet incomprehensible haiku.

*They want it to be true the stickpileing
The locus

So they can sit in their hazmat suits and say

I told you this would be a disaster while they hunt for food using the spear they made out of their Boden umbrella

Their fucking loons*

Do you mind proving the English translation for this?

It must be rather relaxing, being too stupid to worry

Precisely this! Must be lovely in a way to be the pig rather than Socrates
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