Preppers Paradise: Pickled Turnips and Sovereignty Spam

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Despite all the accusations of hysteria for those saying they intend to prep, today Theresa May said households were going to be given guidelines in August and September on how to prepare in the event of No Deal.

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@theresa_may says 70 "technical notices" for businesses and households will be published in Aug and Sept setting out how we can all prepare for a no-deal Brexit (should that be what happens). Yikes

Arla are already warning that milk product may be scare and baby formula will be 'an occasional luxury' even if we do get a deal
Dairy products 'may become luxuries' after UK leaves EU

Whilst we wait for the government to advise us on what action we all need to consider taking, this is a thread dedicated for those people who wish to share tips, advice and what they plan to do rather than clogging up other threads.

People need to remember that the people who work at any stage of the food supply chain or in power stations also need to get to work/feed their family/deal with childcare issues/ deal with bad weather etc. Some of them may, shock horror, put their family issues before mine and not turn up to work or not be able to get in to work.
Fragility of our system can cause hiccups.

Thanks bellini. Sorry about your bad experience.

I will be prepping with DBro who gets it and has been following the political situation more closely than I have. I'm reluctant to raise the issue with DF or DM as have long learned not to discuss Brexit with them, but I'm not too worried as they are fairly well organised and with many more resources than I have. Also they're some distance away, so we couldn't give each other much practical help.

Less food doesn't necessarily mean less obesity, so you can't call on that as a silver lining. Less food also means much poorer quality food, the kind that fills you up but is low in vital nutrients. It's why obesity tends to correspond with lower income levels.

With prolonged shortages of basic foods, Venezuelans have been forced to shift their diets to whatever they can find. And what they can find is not necessarily healthy.

Milk, meat and beans – the main sources of protein in the Venezuelan diet – are hard to find or sold at exorbitant prices, and many are filling up on empty carbs from pasta, rice and the traditional arepa cornmeal cake.

“These fill you up and make you fat but they are not nutritious,” said nutritionist Héctor Cruces. “Viscera are high in fat and low on protein.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/24/venezuela-crisis-basic-food-shortages

I'm getting a camping stove, kettle and gas cannisters this weekend. Also stocking up on tinned produce. Dh is clearing the shed out for our supplies. Also going to buy wine and ale making kits.

Agreed Mrs, what a fucking ridiculous situation we find ourselves in

Why has everything been left to the last moment? No wonder DD resigned, who wants to have their name attached to this mess?

Why not trial during the 2018 farming season, the new systems, why wait until after we leave the EU?

@BakewellFarts a bit of camping gear is a good idea.

Thanks for the thread. Type 1 diabetic in the house too, he’s started putting in prescriptions more regularly. We have a cool box that will keep things cool for up to 5 days so am going to keep bottles of water frozen in freezer ready to get that going in event of power cuts.

Picked up a few extra bits in shop today, no one is going to want to live with me if I run out of tea. I have an allotment and greenhouse at home but know how hard it is to get steady supply of veg. Was talking to neighbors son today who gets his water heater by solar which was interesting and made me think.Thankfully DH very much on side.

Gas Barbeque. One with a big fuck off canister. We just bought one last weekend on sale from Morrisons for £50 (was originally £140) as our old one was getting dangerous through rust. Gas I think was about £40. Our last one lasted over 2 years I think. DH has been looking out for one for some time but didn't want to fork out for one. We use the BBQ a fair amount during the summer anyway. Its DH's toy, so that works out fine from my point of view.

It will last you a lot longer than a camp stove, plus if you have a partner who is into barbeques then you can sell it as a long time nice thing. Most stoves burn gas at approximately 150 grams per hour; the average 500g canister will last for just over three hours according to camping websites. So your camping stove isn't going to go terribly far.

Also see fire pits. You can cook a surprising amount on an open fire. Some great recipe books out there on how to do it.

Got a husband who is outdoorsy, and loves barbequing? Great, there's a Christmas present sorted.

Anyway, I told DH about my sudden interest in pickling as we have so many courgettes tonight. Didn't tell him why. He didn't blink. Result.

postnotinhaste solar hot water requires a mains electricity supply for the pump. If you're worried about electricity this is not a solution.

I live in an EU27 country so not making any preparations personally except to refuse all business travel after mid March (can't risk not being able to get home to my kids). But I am seriously considering persuading my mum to come to stay with us for the last week of March, just in case, as she is in her eighties and lives alone.

I’ve got a good incentive to clear out some of the crap from my office.

I’m going to pay a lot more attention to use by dates and start buying up regular use items with long sell by dates.

I’ve been meaning to get a water butt for years so this is a pretty good incentive.

The Times Front Page

We used some of our savings to get a wood burner installed and have also bought a firepit (didn’t own a BBQ). I still think it’s unlikely we’ll descend to the level of power cuts and no water supply, but at least with these I can be sure of keeping us warm and being able to heat food/boil water.

That was more for general use rather than emergencies Mistrigirl as he got me thinking when he said he is paying tiny amounts for his hot water.

We’ve got a folding water butt somewhere, time to dig it and the Kelly Kettle out I think.still can’t bring myself to believe we’ll need the preparations we’ll make but there us no way i’m risking it, Would bail fir a bit to relatives abroad but DS needs to be at school.

Tins with ring pulls - you can cook on an open fire in the tin, then open (carefully!). Sausages and beans are a good one, but plenty of options. But go for the ring pull ones as they are easier to open when the tin is still hot (Remove the label first though).

We have a mortgage and some savings in an ISA. I'm a bit worried about both the banking system and interest rates. If I move my ISA to the same bank the mortgage is held, if bank goes under and I lose all my ISA savings, would the bank/creditors deduct the amount lost in the ISA from my mortgage or still chase me for the whole mortgage ignoring my ISA losses? I don't think gov 85k guarantee is worth anything so am ignoring that.

The prepares have got a Brexit stockpile thread too:
What isn’t produced in Britain that we need to stockpile?

*the preppers

To be fair us "preppers" have been pondering this for ages on several threads (what with us being preppers ). We have no exclusive insight into the likelihood or extent of any forthcoming problems, we have just been talking about what to do for a bit longer.
Don't fear the Prepper topic. Make your own judgement about likelihood and head on over to this topic for ideas. No one is forcing you to do anything or judging you for buying extra bits (or not buying extra bits).

Oh yeah, and us preppers tend to look at emergency preparedness in the round so we'll talk about water collection, power supplies, hearing etc. If you don't want to do some or all of that or don't think it's necessary, that's your call. Think about your family, your situation and what you are comfortable with.
All I want is for people to be a bit more resilient in tricky situations do that emergency services people can focus on those that need extra help and not waste time.

Heating not hearing. Hearing is our special super code that only dogs and preppers can hear 😂.