Westministenders: High Drama at The Ok Coral

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3:00 p.m. Wednesday, October 26, 1881, Tombstone, Arizona.

After months of death threats from the Cowboy Billys, their long simmering feud with the law thing came to a head. The Earp Brothers and Doc Holliday faced the criminals down in a shootout.

Tomorrow's 'sleepover' is starting to feel like the Gunfight at the OK Coral.

The outcome of the real story was three of the outlaws were killed. Another two claimed they were unarmed and ran from the fight. Virgil, Morgan, and Doc Holliday were wounded, but Wyatt Earp was unharmed.

How many Brexiteers can we expect to roll over and resign from the Cabinet and how many will surrender to May and the Pro-Business lobby? ONly time will tell.

Please place your bets for the number of resignations and the number of 'I support the PM' comments.

But don't get too excited. The showdown wasn't the end of the matter.

One of the outlaws who legged it, filed murder charges against the Earps and Doc Holliday. It took them some time for them to be acquitted.

Then Virgil Earp was ambushed and disabled in the arm later that year in December and Morgan Earp was assassinated in March 1882. Wyatt Earp, then thinking he had no other option, went on a personal vendetta to kill the outlaws and then fled the state.

Given the Tory Cabinet and the perchant for stabbing each other in the back and settling personal scores, a repeat of a wild west gun fight, really doesn't sound too wildly off the cards now does it?

Buckle up. Its time to play at Chequers.

Only if a renewed surge by Labour or a back from way behind LibDem candidate win happens.
www.bbc.com/news/politics/constituencies/E14001056

Just woke up to the DD news. He's actually resigned? This is surely the sign of the incoming apocalypse.

I've no idea what DD thinks he's been collecting his ministerial pay packet & perks for, all this time

He is the minister who should have been giving the PM a reality check about the kind of deal the EU will actually consider
So she doesn't keep re-polishing the same turd of excreted cherries.

iirc, it's about 6 months since DD bothered to meet Bariner
(he never bothered to meet lesser members of the EU team)

DD always looks half-asleep and / or sozzled

At what level does gross laziness and incompetence in ministerial office reach the level of the criminal offence "Misconduct in Public Office" ?
A police officer or nurse who had bumbled about without doing any actual useful work would be hammered if many members of the public actually suffered from this.

Maybe now we'll have a more realistic policy than waiting until the 59th minute of Brexit Eve for the EU to cave in

Now this may be petty of me but:

1. It is not cricket to sign any letter " Yours ever" is it? Unless it's a special politics thing?

1. At least May's staff use a house style layout that justifies both side margins. David Davis's letter has a very dodgy right hand margin.

On the substance I cannot believe he is still issuing UKIP type generalisms about the common rule book. As we know on these threads the jointly agreed regulations from the EU covered mainly standards in food, agriculture and the environment with some workers rights too. So what! It is disingenuous of Davis to write we gave up control of 'swathes' of our economy.

The reality is we always had complete control of 99.3% of GDP. Plus all 28 individual countries always set their own laws about private and public health, education, fiscal policy, public services, industrial and transport investment, taxation, defence, property, social care, policing, crime, security, pensions, property, succession, local government etc etc.
So for Davis to use the word 'swathes' is misleading embarrassingly tabloid and inaccurate.

I believe I read in one of tonight's articles on DD that he had trouble keeping up when the topic at hand got a little technical. Or trouble making a coherent contribution to technical discussions. Something of that order.

Hence the broad brushstrokes. He genuinely doesn't understand what Brexit is about or what the EU is about.

I think she should give the job to JRM, he is sounding more and more ludicrous every time I hear him interviewed. A new role may just tip him over the edge from supercilious to just plain silly.

So will DD be replaced. There's a whole department there with a big budget to run.Just a reminder of some DexEU spending...

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2018-0046/CDP-2018-0046.pdf

All 3 Leavers quitting DexEU, leaving others to actually do the job of getting a deal ...
< chicken noises >

Dexeu's Midnight Runners !

Hey DexEU could become a sub department of the Foreign Office with Boris in charge. That would be amusing.... or not.

DexEU midnight runners!

If the Queen in Brenda, TM could be Eileen. Except obvs I only want her to come on if that means ditching this whole folly.

All that money and the UK has not progressed beyond turd-polishing

I posted a few days ago that there were rumours Dexeu might be closed down anyway
and the work given to the new dept reporting to the Cabinet Office, who have been working on planning for no-deal

Not a bad idea - that group should have fewer illusions about what no-deal would mean

However, might be politically difficult atm for May - she'll probably want to appoint new ministers asap.

If all the Ultras / Leavers refuse to be associated with the Chequers Agreement, then it's a great opportunity

• or a career killer after Brexit goes pear-shaped - for ambitious neutrals, who haven't nailed their colours to any mast

May needs a big name to take over Brexit if poss, but not an obvious Remainer
Someone sufficiently clever to master the brief quickly, but not clever enough to avoid a likely career-killer

Yes I think some kind of merger but we'd better hear political mystic RTB's proposals for a successor.Once again, her predictions came true before the end of the thread.

How many Brexiteers can we expect to roll over and resign from the Cabinet

Thinking.....It's going to be Gove in charge of DexEU isn't it. I think DD probably really resigned verbally on Friday. This is why Gove has been high profile in supporting the PM over the weekend ...

He genuinely doesn't understand what Brexit is about or what the EU is about.

You can't say that! Everybody knows that Brexiteers foresaw all possible outcomes, understood every ramification and all knew exactly what they voted for .

BCF All 3 Leavers quitting DexEU...

Who is the 3rd? Or are you predicting?!

I'd imagine that the ambitious Brexiters in cabinet will be basing their resignation decisions on whether it helps or hinders their leadership chances.

Maybe DD had a moment of self-awareness; 'I can't achieve anything good here - I'm being hamstrung'. He always said he'd resign at the end of the Brexit process anyway.

Someone being interviewed now (didn't catch the name) on R4 saying DD was presented with the plan at Chequers after Angela Merkel had seen it.

Nick Robinson just pointed out to Bernard Jenkins that his faction has had two years to come up with an alternative plan and they haven't. Bernard says their plan is Canada plus, solving the Irish border by not putting up a botder. They are still not getting it after all this time.

Plaice mat king. Long time lurker. What interesting times.

Aah thanks Susan, it was Bernard Jenkin!

Corbyn carping... but if he had a plan that was better, shouldn't he say? He knows there isn't a good way, so should be saying so. Rejecting Brexit. What, is he keeping his own brilliant plan secret till he gets into power...? no I don't think so. So he should oppose.

mobile.twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1016104220594982913?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Just trying to decide if DD did or didn't mince his words in that resignation letter.

What is it about the name David and meat?? Cameron and pork. Davis and mince.

Yes Corbyn's response was poor I thought.

David Davis resigning at such a crucial time shows @Theresa_May has no authority left and is incapable of delivering Brexit.

With her Government in chaos, if she clings on, it's clear she's more interested in hanging on for her own sake than serving the people of our country.

Tweet sent promptly at 12.30 am though.

Dd's correctly unjustified right margin is the best thing about his ministerial tenure, lonely! Tm's bilateral justification is Wrong according to my typing teacher, but interesting given her reputation as a controller. Let your right margin wander free in the sunlit uplands, TM!

Yes 'incapable of delivering brexit' implies that he could. All the Corbynistas thinking he has a cunning plan to let brexit implode are going to be hugely disappointed in the not very distant future.

Everything that has happened over the past 2 years is car-crash-gruesomely fascinating. Except, like a car crash, it’s only fascinating if you’re the rubbernecker, not the participant.

Annandale-MN doesn't justify the right wing of course!

Hester DD, Jenkins, Braverman

I also wonder if even those dimwits managed to see the disaster that Brexit will be ?

They jumped ship (Titanic) before it hits the iceberg - having jammed the controls for full speed ahead

Now they hope to escape blame, to avoid their shameful place in history
(politicians egos mean they often worry about that, instead of doing their day jobs)