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Westministenders: High Drama at The Ok Coral

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RedToothBrush · 05/07/2018 22:38

3:00 p.m. Wednesday, October 26, 1881, Tombstone, Arizona.

After months of death threats from the Cowboy Billys, their long simmering feud with the law thing came to a head. The Earp Brothers and Doc Holliday faced the criminals down in a shootout.

Tomorrow's 'sleepover' is starting to feel like the Gunfight at the OK Coral.

The outcome of the real story was three of the outlaws were killed. Another two claimed they were unarmed and ran from the fight. Virgil, Morgan, and Doc Holliday were wounded, but Wyatt Earp was unharmed.

How many Brexiteers can we expect to roll over and resign from the Cabinet and how many will surrender to May and the Pro-Business lobby? ONly time will tell.

Please place your bets for the number of resignations and the number of 'I support the PM' comments.

But don't get too excited. The showdown wasn't the end of the matter.

One of the outlaws who legged it, filed murder charges against the Earps and Doc Holliday. It took them some time for them to be acquitted.

Then Virgil Earp was ambushed and disabled in the arm later that year in December and Morgan Earp was assassinated in March 1882. Wyatt Earp, then thinking he had no other option, went on a personal vendetta to kill the outlaws and then fled the state.

Given the Tory Cabinet and the perchant for stabbing each other in the back and settling personal scores, a repeat of a wild west gun fight, really doesn't sound too wildly off the cards now does it?

Buckle up. Its time to play at Chequers.

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Cailleach1 · 08/07/2018 19:22

The island of Ireland would include NI as well. Without any reference to GB or UK.

As for what was drawn up by the Tory cabinet at Chequers. Bit of delusion about it's status.

'Oh yes, 6f says we can diverge'. Only if you have so little awareness that you think you can draw up, complete and enact your own agreement without any input from the other party.

'Oh yes, 6f says I will own and you will vacate No. 45 Eaton Square' Why stop there. I'll be busy tonight. 'Oh yes, 6f says I will own the Scilly Isles from midnight. You don't know anything about it? Look at 6f of this agreement I drew up. It is there in black and white. Toddle off!'

BigChocFrenzy · 08/07/2018 19:24

workshy Services are currently not really being addressed by the UK govt, just goods

  • May seems to have dropped services in the hope that the EU will accept her waterimg down FOM as a quid pro quo.

Services carried out in the UK exclusively for UK customers shouldn't be affected - other than there may be fewer solvent customers after a bad Brexit

However, as I posted earlier, many services are related to goods - e.g. maintenance, training, financing - so if the goods are stopped due to exports / imports somewhere along the chain, then so will the services

BigChocFrenzy · 08/07/2018 21:32

Laura Kuenssberg: Tory tensions still profound despite cabinet deal

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44751167

Ministers this week received one paper explaining why a Canada-style trade deal couldn't work because it wouldn't prevent an Irish hard border.
Another then about why the Norway model, the European Economic Area, couldn't work.
A third paper too explaining how leaving with no deal might cause such an economic upset, that the Tories would be punished for a generation.

Then finally late on Thursday before the meeting - ta dah! - a paper proposing the magic solution, well at least the prime minister's compromise.

RedToothBrush · 08/07/2018 22:00

The woman exposed to Novichok has died.

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workshyfop · 08/07/2018 22:06

Thanks BigChoc I don’t understand why they’re not addressing trade in services. We’re a service economy. 80% of our GDP is from services, 80% of the UK workforce is employed in the services sector and 32% of our exports to the EU last year were services.

woman11017 · 08/07/2018 22:08

Very sad news red

Alltheprettyseahorses · 08/07/2018 22:09

Good grief! What happens now - should the government tell UK citizens to leave Russia?

54321go · 08/07/2018 22:31

We hope the guy makes it and can say what he and Dawn touched and where they found it.
@workshyfop. The Govt are playing a very weird 'power game' which has certainly got the world guessing. Trade in services will mean that it needs FOM which is what Brexit was attempting to stop, in a very clumsy way.

missmoon · 08/07/2018 23:36

Has David Davies just resigned?

lonelyplanetmum · 08/07/2018 23:38

Yup as Brexit secretary according to several sources...

lonelyplanetmum · 08/07/2018 23:40

Lots of humorous tweets about to be fair to him we all feel like this at 11.30 on Sunday night.

CardinalSin · 08/07/2018 23:46

Well, he was about as much use as a chocolate teapot...

SwedishEdith · 08/07/2018 23:55

Will anyone notice he's resigned?

prettybird · 08/07/2018 23:58

Not sure Barnier will Wink

Peregrina · 09/07/2018 00:23

Steve Baker (who?) has resigned also. Obviously they didn't fancy the long walk down the drive of Chequers, not that they can be blamed for that in this heat. Didn't DD agree to TM's proposals on Friday? That lasted well!

It's reminiscent of Labour's summer of resignations two years ago.

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:23

@Falcon5
If I were you, I would try to make an appointment with an officer in the Irish Embassy to talk about the possibilities that are open to you.

Childrenofthesun · 09/07/2018 00:28

Good riddance. I don't know what he'll do with all his spare time now. He spent a whole 4 hours this year meeting with Barnier.

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:29

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/08/david-davis-resigns-as-brexit-secretary-reports-say
Yup, he gone.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/07/08/david-davis-resigns-brexit-secretary/
Other ministers in his department, including Steve Baker and Suella Braverman are said to have agreed a "you go, we go" pact with Mr Davis, suggesting Mrs May could find herself having to replace the entire Brexit department...

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:30

Or maybe she will just close down the department and forget the whole project...

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:34

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/jul/09/david-davis-resigns-as-brexit-secretary-live-updates
Steve Baker resigns
David Davis’ deputy Steve Baker has followed his boss out of the door.

Conservative harpy MP Andrea Jenkyns has welcomed the news.

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:34

The harpy is mine, not the Grauniad's, btw.

OlennasWimple · 09/07/2018 00:41

Well, the Cabinet Office has been quietly building up its Brexit capability over recent months, so maybe it will just absorb the DeExEU responsibilities but without a full new ministerial team?

mathanxiety · 09/07/2018 00:57

If a leadership contest happens then I expect to see Steve Baker's name in the hat. He has Brexit credentials, the sort of military background that thrills Unionists, and his past includes funding by Richard Cook of the mysterious Constitutional Research Council that was associated with the DUP.

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2018 01:03

Andrea Jenkyns is a complete attention seeker. Tonight she's been singing at Artists for Brexit. Can you imagine anything more ghastly?

twitter.com/GawainTowler/status/1016048292373909504

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2018 01:04

Steve Baker also has a loseable majority.

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