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Westminstenders: Throwing Boomerangs

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RedToothBrush · 06/04/2018 18:42

British politics and media in a nutshell.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang_effect_(psychology)#Political_beliefs

No EU progress, no discussion. Just this. Keep everyone in line by bouncing boomerangs.

Disaster capitalism looms, they just have to get us to the edge of the cliff before the centre reforms. That's it.

If the legal roads to stop Brexit are closed as David Allen Green says, then how do you force the political flood gates to open, especially with both the far left and the far right using micro-aggression against the public to keep the centre ground weak?

Answers on a ballot paper on 3rd May.

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lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 07:01

A protest would be good as long as it involves back turning or something.I'd hate him to think it was an adulatory welcome.

(I nearly wrote adulterous by mistake then! I am certainly not giving him that kind of a welcome.Ugh.)

Peregrina · 27/04/2018 07:03

The customs union was mentioned just once in Vote Leave's 53 "key speeches, interviews and op-eds" - the Brexiteers have no mandate for leaving it.

It would be good if he could tell us how many times controlling immigration was mentioned in the key speeches. This might help nail the Brexiters fantasy that they aren't xenophobes.

BlueEyeshadow · 27/04/2018 07:58

[Misses point ]
According to Oxford dictionaries, "The spellings adviser and advisor are both correct. Adviser is more common, but advisor is also widely used, especially in North America. Adviser may be seen as less formal, while advisor often suggests an official position"

lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 08:14

Thanks Blue!

Given the pro American (and anti EU) agenda of Fox and his chum's 'charity', perhaps the business card spelling was deliberately US friendly then.Wonder what he's doing now?

BigChocFrenzy · 27/04/2018 08:33

Taoiseach will put a stop to the EU - UK Withdrawal Agreement unless progress on the border by June

www.independent.ie/business/brexit/taoiseach-will-put-a-stop-to-the-eu-uk-withdrawal-agreement-unless-progress-on-the-border-by-june-36848617.html

“It is essential that we see real and solid progress by June if the negotiations are to move forward.

“And without a solution to the Irish border there can be no Withdrawal Agreement. Let there be no doubt about that”,

BigChocFrenzy · 27/04/2018 08:37

NI: Documents discuss huge political difficulty of accepting any of the proposals for resolving problem

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/25/northern-ireland-papers-no-simple-solution-to-hard-border

Senior British officials privately conceded last year that the UK’s preferred solution for avoiding a hard border with the Republic after Brexit would threaten the EU’s single market

and that all possible outcomes would be damaging for the province. < and rUK >

A series of leaked letters and briefing papers from the Northern Ireland executive – at least one of which was sent to Olly Robbins, the prime minister’s most senior Brexit adviser – lay bare the huge difficulties created by Brexit.

The political “difficulty” of accepting the EU’s backstop solution of keeping Northern Ireland in the customs union and a large bulk of single market legislation was discussed Hmm

Most troublingly, however, an internal working paper drawn up by Northern Ireland’s economic department, marked “official sensitive”, concludes that whatever the option chosen, the economy will suffer.

lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 08:41

Interesting:

"The documents even raise proposals to follow the Lichtenstein model – a set of agreements that allows that country to be in both the EU and Swiss economic area – only to conclude they are not an ideal fit for Northern Ireland."

"The UK would also take responsibility to ensure that goods coming into Northern Ireland, that did not match EU standards, did not move on to the 27 member states."- how can this happen without a hard border ?

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 10:07

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-custody-black-minority-deaths-uk-numbers-un-warning-racism-united-nations-a8324886.html
UN issues warning over deaths of disproportionate number of black people in police custody and ‘structural racism’ in UK

Ethnic minority people are three times more likely to be tasered than white people, report finds

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DGRossetti · 27/04/2018 10:08

Meanwhile, if anyone was wondering what happens when a bunch of ill-organised, slightly self-important (but dim) people who must believe in unicorns and fairies meets reality then get some wine, popcorn and comfy slippers, and settle back ...

The parallels with Brexit are fascinating.

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/27/europe_icann_whois_gdpr/

Special report On March 26 – two months before new privacy protections come into effect in Europe – Goran Marby, CEO of DNS overlord ICANN, sent a letter [PDF] to each of Europe's 28 data protection authorities (DPAs) asking them to hold off punishing it over Whois.

Whois is a set of databases of domain-name owners, overseen by ICANN, and it contains people's personal information such as their names and contact addresses. As it stands, it is not compatible with Europe's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which kicks in on May 25. Flouting the rules may result in fines. Something therefore has to be done. ICANN isn't quite sure what to do yet, hence its request for a stay of enforcement.

In a blog post on ICANN's website on March 29, Marby said he was "hopeful that we will be provided with a moratorium on enforcement." He mentioned the moratorium again in another update on April 10.

Then the request for a moratorium was inserted into a letter to Europe's Article 29 Working Party – a group comprising all the DPAs – on April 12. "We must again stress the need for a moratorium on enforcement in order for us to act to protect Internet users globally," Marby wrote [PDF] to the group's chairwoman Andrea Jelinek.

The same day, ICANN published a blog post built around the proposed moratorium, warning that without it "the Whois system will become fragmented." And again the next day, in another update, Marby spoke of "the need for additional time… including a moratorium on enforcement."

In the meantime, the organization started figuring out the fastest way it could come up with a solution to become compliant with the incoming privacy safeguards, and reached the conclusion that by using a special process, it could do the work within a year.

And so that open-ended moratorium became fixed: a one-year extension for ICANN to introduce its new system. ICANN then solicited input from other groups – including the US government – to back up its idea and took a series of letters along with a proposed timeline showing a one-year moratorium to a meeting of the Article 29 Working Party (WP29) in Brussels.

The letters repeatedly reference that suspension, sometimes using different language. For example, the Intellectual Property Constituency describes [PDF] it as a "forbearance on penalties." As does the International Trademark Association, which – even though it is not a constituency within ICANN - complains [PDF] that the WP29 has yet to get back to ICANN confirming the forbearance. The US government mentioned [PDF] the moratorium no less than four times in its letter.

There was however a big problem with this whole effort: there can be no such thing as a moratorium on regulations that are already in place.

In a new statement, provided by the Article 29 Working Party to The Register on Thursday following its meeting with ICANN earlier this week, the group is clearly baffled by ICANN's repeated requests for something that doesn't exist.

"The GDPR does not allow national supervisory authorities nor the European Data Protection Board to create an 'enforcement moratorium' for individual data controllers," the statement notes. "Data protection is a fundamental right of individuals, who may submit complaints to their national data protection authority whenever they consider that their rights under the GDPR have been violated."

ICANN had made the concept of a moratorium the central pillar of its effort to become compliant with the law. But its entire strategy was built on a fantasy. So where did this concept come from? Who was advising the organization that this was even a viable approach, let alone the best one to adopt?

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 10:09

Helen Catt @BBCHelenCatt
BBC South East has found that not a single @DExEUgov Minister has yet been to see operations at the Port of #Dover. That’s despite concerns over traffic and a steady stream of other politicians coming here for briefings.

.@DExEUgov says Ministers have met with representatives from the Port of Dover on a number of occasions & that civil servants have undertaken several visits to both sites. A visit by @SuellaBraverman is planned next month

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 10:11

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-economic-growth-latest-2018-q1-collapse-ons-office-national-statistics-figures-a8324906.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1524820042
UK economic growth collapses to just 0.1% in first quarter of 2018, new figures show
It was well down on the 0.4 per cent expansion at the end of 2017 and the weakest quarterly growth rate recorded since 2012

Waits for all the comments from Brexiteers about how the economy is doing so well.

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 10:12

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs-doctor-recruitment-india-home-office-visas-rejected-amber-rudd-windrush-a8324831.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1524819735
Fury as NHS recruits 100 doctors from India only for Home Office to deny them all visas
NHS bosses warn cap on visas for non-EU doctors leading to rota gaps and delays in patient care

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DGRossetti · 27/04/2018 10:16

Fury as NHS recruits 100 doctors from India only for Home Office to deny them all visas

Sounds like the Home Office is on sterling form despite Brexit.

That's a loud and clear message sent to the subcontinent to keep them firmly in their place.

The Home Office - let's party like it's 1969 !

Cailleach1 · 27/04/2018 10:31

It is almost as if the UK thinks a sovereign country with a population of 1.3 billion people will do anything the UK tells it to do on trade. Irrespective of how their citizens are treated.

Fintan O Toole wondering why does this remind him of the Brexit negotiations?

twitter.com/distractedfilm/status/989552516751855616

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 11:12

Robert Peston @ robertpeston
"Louis Arthur Charles". I know about the Mountbatten and royal connections. But these are so of-the-moment, London bubble names. Let's be clear, they are basically Remainer names

Omg Peston is going to get so much shit for that tweet.

I'm wetting myself at it.

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 11:19

Tick tick BOOM

Andrew Lilico @andrew_lilico
Can we all agree now to call him by his middle name, Arthur?
We could also agree that if we do ever use his first name, we'll pronounce it in proper English fashion, "Loo-iss" - as in Louis Smith. None of this "Loo-ee" cod-Frenchie pretentiousness for proper upper class folk, surely? (cf the old "settee" vs "sofa" conundrum.)

Oh amazing.

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BigChocFrenzy · 27/04/2018 11:19

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/former-tory-ministers-back-uk-staying-in-eu-customs-union-1.3475770

Dominic Grieve:
"the deputy ambassador of Japan has us all in and says,

‘You do realise that every Japanese company will be gone in 10 years’ time, if they cannot have frictionless trade into the European Union’?"

DGRossetti · 27/04/2018 11:52

deputy ambassador of Japan

The UKs not even worth the Ambassadors time now ...

lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 12:16

Every day I think I need to get over this and move on and yet it's the gift that keeps on giving:

•Immigration apps that don't work on iPhones!

•Fury as NHS recruits 100 doctors from India only for Home Office to deny them all visas.

• Kate and William declare their position with young Prince Louis of Remain- the days of using young royals to forge European allegiances are still with us.

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 27/04/2018 12:41

Kate and William declare their position with young Prince Louis of Remain
This will now be what I hear whenever I hear his name Grin

lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 12:45
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Dobby1sAFreeElf · 27/04/2018 12:50

Here are our children Prince George and Princess Charlotte of Cambridge and little Prince Louis of Remain.

I need to get out more, I'm seriously chuckling out loud over this.

DGRossetti · 27/04/2018 12:51

Seems Dilbert has been investigating UK law and order ..

Westminstenders: Throwing Boomerangs
lonelyplanetmum · 27/04/2018 12:54

Please tell me this £300 million is not true.

A public information Brexit campaign to "reassure people" that the government is getting "the best exit deal for the UK" is one of 143 planned for 2018/19 with a total spend of £300m.

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/government-plans-140-campaigns-including-brexit-deal-reassurance-drive/1463223?bulletin=campaignbrandssbulletin&utmmedium=EMAIL&utmmcampaign=eNews%20Bulletin&utmsource=20180427&utmmcontent=Campaign%20Brands%20(27-04-2018)::wwwcampaignliveecoukkar3&emaillhash=#akVWPg0TVaouIWDk.99

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2018 12:54

Jim Pickard of the Financial Times tweeted that the Brexity alternative was Nigel Jacob Gammon.

There are many funny tweets today on Peston's Brexitification of the Royal Prince. It is pure Philomena Cunk.

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