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hey, how do you feel about the fact we are going to have to remain aligned to EU rules for at least the transition period, and very likely indefinitely, if we want to maintain 'frictionless trade'

How does that fit into your 'sovereignty' rhetoric when we now won't even have a say in these rules?

Witness now how we are being punished by the eu to have the temerity to leave.

We're only being 'punished' in the sense that, if you announced to e.g. your gym that you wanted to leave, but you wanted to be able to come in anyway... and go to the classes you wanted... and use the sauna now and then on your terms... you'd be laughed out the room/subjected to fees/rules/conditions.

On laws and sovereignty, this is a bit of an old saw already, but let's take fishing. The laws and regulations around quotas were used in the leave campaign as evidence that the EU were evil overlords denying us access to our own fish stocks; but in fact we were given perfectly fine quotas and the then government in its infinite wisdom decided to flog them all off.

Sorry you think my feelings are a 'yawnfest'

No need to apologise, but thanks anyway!

I note that, as usual, you have no real response other than to pull out the old 'can't be arsed...' comment

Whilst I have in turn noted the irony in your words.

I wait as ever with bated breath for something other than the same old tired rhetoric of 2016.

Thought I'd pop in for a swift half
Politically, I've never felt so despondent. As a life long Labour member/voter, the anti-semitism and gender identity issues have me, for the first time in over 20 years, struggling to think who I'd be able to vote for if a GE was called tomorrow.
The answer is no one.

16,141,241 people are now without a voice politically. The Conservatives don't care, Labour are doing the exact opposite of opposition and the Liberal Democrats are apparently demonised for all eternity for their previous coalition, where they were the only party in living memory to renege on an election promise or policy .

Nick Clegg sold his parties soul just to get a bit of power. He made a massive mistake & it will take years for people to forget that.
Even trying desperately to be the ‘anti brexit’ party didn’t do them any good at last election - they’re just a joke really.

Faith , honest question, if you are, as you say willing to wait for full divergence, how would you feel about the UK remaining in the SM/CU for a limited period of time, to allow business and organisations a sensible timescale to implement any proposed changes ?

Surfer that's the bit I don't get though. Why were the Liberal Democrats expected to be better than the other parties ? Why do they need to be 'punished' for doing what both other political parties have done for all eternity ?

But frumpety they didn’t just ‘not deliver on a few election promises’ they joined forces with the tories! The ENEMY!!!
You just don’t do that in politics.

You just don’t do that in politics.

You just don’t do that in British politics.

FTFY.

Although we've seen Tories and Labour working as a team in the past - they were practically tonguing each other to keep the referendum on AV on course.

The ENEMY , interesting turn of phrase that, ignoring the crossover that the political parties used to have, I say used to because I have lost sight of the pragmatists and left leaning tories and middle ground leaning labour types. If they are still there, they are keeping their heads down and who can honestly blame them ?

You just don’t do that in British politics.

Took the words right out of my mouth there DG . That one episode of coalition is being held up to 'prove' that as a political principle , it is a very bad thing. Worse than our current two horse race ? Or one horse and two jockeys as it currently stands?

As I’m living in Britain, I’m talking about how we do things here.
If you want to talk about coalition governments of the Congo or Mali - off you go.

As I’m living in Britain, I’m talking about how we do things here.

So are we.

If you want to talk about coalition governments of the Congo or Mali - off you go.

(Interesting choice of countries to denigrate )

Coalition is just as much a part of British politics using the observation that which is not forbidden is permitted - or was 2010-2015 a dream ?

Just because it's "a bit hard innit ?" is no reason to fear it.

I have had a few interesting conversations over the last week with people who voted leave and now regret their decision. Now before you pounce on me , I am not holding these few random conversations up as evidence of a general turning tide in opinion across the UK. Nor do I wander round having political conversations with my patients , these were completely unsolicited and I did not express my own personal views on the subject, preferring instead a noncommittal 'I wouldn't worry, I am sure it will all be fine' . But I do feel like I am lying to them by saying this

I don’t fear coalition governments - I’d actually welcome them.
Having UKIP sharing power is a good thing imo.
I’m sure you’d agree.

Are UKIP still going ?

I don’t fear coalition governments - I’d actually welcome them

Having UKIP sharing power is a good thing imo.

Actually, if they got the votes, yes. Whilst there's no accounting for taste, it's better than the current system which simply says "fuck off" to anyone who didn't back the winner.

I’m sure you’d agree

I just have.

And just to burst your perfect bubble, we are effectively being ruled by a coalition now. A rose by any other name, and all that ....

Are UKIP still going ?

I'm sure if there are debates to be dodged, and expenses to be claimed, they'll be there. The Keith Richards of extremist politics.

That's a bit harsh on Keith DG

Actually, if they got the votes, yes. Whilst there's no accounting for taste, it's better than the current system which simply says "fuck off" to anyone who didn't back the winner

Absolutely. I agree with you there.

There's more that unites us than divides us ...

Can I nick that DG ?

It's not mine to give (googles ...)

www.google.co.uk/search?site=&source=hp&btnG=Search&q=more+that+unites+us+than+divides+us

Suggests the late Jo Cox was there before me and before that Mauricio Macri ? - Argentinian statesman b.1959 ?

Jo Cox included that phrase in her maiden speech in the HoC.