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The Brexit thread.

By Brexiters, for Brexiters.

Remainers welcome, but gobshites & goadyfuckers are encouraged to take their business elsewhere.

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I only ever use MN via my iPhone
That would be an iPhone made in China with parts from Thailand, Vietnam and Malaysia and components from Congo, South Africa, Rwanda and Australia based on a design made in the USA

because the EU stops us trading with the world

You're right @TalkinPeace. Obviously the EU doesn't want us to trade.

But Germany is the largest exporter in the world.

And France has just concluded $16 bn of deals with India.

Hey isn't India a commonwealth country? One of the frontiers the UK wants to break into?

So I can only conclude that our trade relationships are rigged in favour of Germany and France right? Please tell me that's the case.

Because I cannot accept that the UK could be doing all this within the EU.

@surferjet 😂

I don't know who it was who said Remainers bring analysis and Leavers bring insults. Spot on.

It's all they have.

with the aim of increasing to by 2022 not really the same as concluding Olivia

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/india-france-commit-to-boost-bilateral-trade-relaunch-eu-fta/articleshow/63247504.cms

UK already has this level of trade with India.

That's massive growth @howabout

I guess it would make sense for France to leave the EU too then. That's the IDS argument. Growth.

Oh wait. $ 15 bn is the square root of nothing for France.

And well France can do this while in the EU.

I guess the UK can't then.

faithhope
What has the triggering of A50 so far achieved ?

Well your laptop is crap and mustn't have a union jack emoji then because no one else is seeing what your's is doing.
This is hilarious. I imagine it being said unironically by one of those idiots that bleated on about 'elites' before and after the referendum. Vote Brexit for a better laptop!

faithhope
What has the triggering of A50 so far achieved ?

Is that a trick question?

It was tongue in cheek Twofingers!

It's definitely a trick question, because the answer is obviously "nothing" (apart from the loss of value to the economy, obviously)

@CardinalSin

Well the EU has proposed a shit deal.

And the govt has agreed to solve the insoluble.

And Boris keeps lying.

I didn't really consider those "achievements" as such...

Well the EU has proposed a shit deal.

I don't think the EU is required to propose any deal. We're leaving, so it's up to us to make the proposals. The EU just abides by the legal framework under which it operates

@Hasenstein

Completely agree. Because we have no idea what we want, we've been told what it will be.

Deep and special. Red white and blue. Red lines Brexshit,

Well, CETA is what we have been offered with a requirement NOW to solve the NI border fiasco.

On the achievement. It has have achieved a downgrading of the rating of the country and so have increased the cost of borrowings. A higher interest on debt, so the country will owe more.

Credit rating agencies, in essence, rate a country on the strength of its economy - scoring governments or large companies on how likely they are to pay back their debt.

A rating downgrade can affect how much it costs governments to borrow money in the international financial markets.

In theory, a high credit rating means a lower interest rate, and vice versa.

www.ft.com/content/c464354c-105e-3f91-afda-fc32a28e96e9

It is an achievement, but not a good one.

Hammond was a bit unrealistic on his tour of the politics programmes this morning. 'If we want to join the EMEA', sort of thing. EU doesn't allow a single country outside of the Single Market to be a member, at the moment. EU or EEA only. Well, I suppose the UK can but ask.

Forgot a link

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41369239

@Cailleach1

The ratings downgrade is actually not that big a deal. I don't think Japan is AAA anymore and it has a debt to GDP ratio of over 200%.

Still plenty of buyers for UK govies.

If it continues then it could become a problem. Brexshit wouldn't help.

Yep the real problem is there are still far too many buyers for govt debt. Try getting any let alone a decent rate on an NS&I bond. UK debt ration looks a whole lot healthier if you discount the 435bn QE, but it's politically / economically difficult for PH to point this out.

Anyhow feeling very pleased with the EU this morning. Barnier and Tusk have managed to come up with a formula to unite Gove and co, Struth and Nippy by suggesting the UK just stay in the CFP. PH did a fab job creating just the right amount of stoking the fires on the objections to this yesterday.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43363044

The ratings downgrade is actually not that big a deal.

Except we have endured over 8 years of austerity to maintain it. It was something Gorgeous George specifically stated as an aim of austerity. So it was clearly a big deal at the time.

Who is going to the the public it was all in vain ?

Or is Aesop analysing the news nowdays ? (and to be fair, he'd make a better fist of it than the BBC currently is).

This is a good read if you’d like to know about the CFP:

www.richardcorbett.org.uk/brexitcfp/

No argument from me on what a plank GO was then and is now DGR.

Some interesting analysis given the furore surrounding Vince's latest pronouncements. Chimes with what I thought when I looked at how Leicester voted way back before the EU had its very own MN section.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/02/20/the-british-asian-vote-for-brexit-contains-a-few-surprises/

Interesting article, with some good technical obfuscation, from an English Labour MEP trying to look for a post Brexit role for himself.

Very different viewpoint coming out of the Scottish Fishing Industry.

www.sff.co.uk/brexit/

Wow, rich South Asians unlikely to be too affected by Brexit vote for more South Asians to come into the country. Looking at Priti Patel, who knew!

And did you look at their reasons for voting Leave? Because they don’t feel European and because EU FOM isn’t fair. Great. Thanks.