Westministenders: The Art of the Deal

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Well Trump seems to have put his foot in it.

Not that this should come as a surprise. For all the talk of closer ties with the US that was never going to happen. All that was need was for Trump to over step once too many.

By chance (?) Barnier also raised questions about our commitment to working with the EU on security.

Its almost as if we are being asked to choose whom we look to for security.

Meanwhile it sounds like the divorce bill is sorted - though this may not be as settled as that, if it comes with conditions. The deal might also be backtracked on, seeing as that appears to be the done thing presently.

Talks on Ireland are stalemated with Ireland threating to veto. No sign of a breakthrough here yet.

Talks on EU citz rights are reportedly going backwards (again) rather than going forward.

All of this is theatre for a British audience though, with the UK agreeing to everything. Because they gave again their cards when a50 was triggered.

The crunch is coming on whether we move to stage two before Christmas. We have no time to lose.

How should one address the speaker in an email - dear Mr. Bercow or dear Mr. Speaker?

And then what?

'David Davis is a lying fuckweasel, the committee that cleared him is corrupt and undemocratic and you must hold him to account or else you are just as fucking bad'

is the sentiment I want - but probably not the correct words.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3106847-Westministenders-Happy-Xmas-War-is-Over-if-only?watched=1

New thread.

Thanks for the email address woman
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Sifting is an interesting choice of verb here:

The Chair of the Procedure Committee, Mr Charles Walker OBE MP, has today, on behalf of the Committee, tabled amendments to the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill which will provide a statutory process for greater Parliamentary scrutiny of the delegated legislation to be made under the Bill

Separately, Mr Walker is writing to the Leader of the House of Commons, Rt Hon Andrea Leadsom MP, with draft standing orders for a new European Statutory Instruments Committee which will have the job of sifting instruments proposed under the Bill.

The Government’s proposals in the Bill provide that certain categories of instrument will always require approval by both Houses before coming into law (the affirmative procedure). But it has been identified that a very large number of technical instruments would not, as the legislation stands, require parliamentary votes before being signed into law by Ministers. These instruments would pass under the negative procedure which relies on the House acting to annul the legislation

^The Procedure Committee’s amendments provide that every statutory instrument to be made via the negative procedure under the main law-making powers in the Bill will be laid before the House of Commons in draft by Ministers and sent to a Commons committee for consideration.

The new committee, a so-called ‘sifting committee’, will have the job of looking at each of these instruments and recommending which ones require the affirmative procedure instead (i.e. requiring debate and a vote in the House before they became law). The committee would have ten sitting days to make this recommendation

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/procedure-committee/news-parliament-2017/eu-withdrawal-bill-amendments-17-19/

How should one address the speaker in an email

that's a question which presupposes it will be read ...

Dear Mr. Speaker. I googled it.

A bit of what I wrote to my MP and then forwarded to John Bercow ("Dear Mr Speaker")

I feel I must express my fury and disgust at the latest from David Davis. Hearing him admit to the Parliamentary Committee that DExEU had carried out no impact assessments whatsoever was jaw-droppingly horrifying. And this after he had said in the past that impact assessments had been carried out "in excruciating detail" and that the Prime Minister had read summaries! So the man is a liar. I must also say that his demeanour and attitude when addressing the Committee were those of an idle sixth former put on the spot for not doing his homework - slouching, chewing, eye rolling, saying it was "too hard" and "what's the point anyway" (yes, I recognise this all too well...) not what one would expect from a Minister of the Crown in any circumstance, let alone this one.

No one holding down a job in the real world would for a minute think that this dereliction of duty would be in any way acceptable. How can he "negotiate" Brexit if he doesn't have the faintest clue as to its effects on different sectors of the economy? How can anyone? What are the civil servants in DExEU actually doing? Do impact assessments in fact exist but are so bad the Government would rather we didn't know about them?

As for the Irish border, it just gets worse and worse. It's clear that Mrs May's attempt to bounce the DUP into acquiescence didn't work, why ever did she think it might? Where do we go from here? I can remember the border in the 70's, armed soldiers at checkpoints, aggressive Customs officials, roads rendered impassable (by being cratered) near my relatives' farms. Will this happen again? I can see it might.

And so on. It's a bit of a rant, but it might provide inspiration (if that's the right word).

I started mine
Sir,
I used Liam’s full title obv
disgraced former defence secretary Liam fox

Don't just cut and paste other people's words. Emails which have too much content the same get ignored.

Thanks everyone - I'll go send one now.

For Westministenders, the correct form of address for Loathsome Liam is always:

Disgraced former defence secretary and former / current Werrity-sniffer Liam Fox

Words currently fail me wrt how to address the current Foreign Sec and possible 2018 PM

< pours a bucket of cold puke over thread >

Words currently fail me wrt how to address the current Foreign Sec and possible 2018 PM

That Incompetent Cunt

It's in Debrett's and everything.