Rumour has it, some remainers are a little glum.....

[Carolinesbeanies]

So in the spirit of sharing our deluded brexiteer cheerfulness, heres a round up of some of this weeks good news.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5040279/UK-exports-booming-outside-Europe.html

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/london-news/big-boost-world-bank-ranks-uk-seventh-in-its-doing-business-report/18554.article

https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/world-trade-makes-a-comeback-845798/amp

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-volkswagen/vw-explores-uk-banking-licence-ahead-of-brexit-idUKKBN1D22KR

The government have 'found' £60billion to put is a slush fund for brexit.

https://amp.ft.com/content/f3271ac7-7439-319f-ba90-9252f59aafee

And in the week that saw the interest rate rise, the Bank of England said gloomily "as migration tightens, we will see wage growth". Note the 'we will'.

Excellent. All this whilst the media obsess over impotent politicians as Britain works.

Re people asking for a new vote as they perceive enough old people have died, I wonder if the old /young divide will change over time,as once we have left and a generation of people are raised outside the EU, it will be the perceived “oldies “ banging the EU drum.

I doubt it...

Time will tell...

Hey this is really good. For aerospace companies outside the UK that is ...

UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit

Sh*t.

So logically, if you're the CEO of a UK aerospace business and this happens, what do you do? Move to the EU 27 ...

But hey, maybe a few more ice skating rinks can open up in Essex and we can compensate for the lost jobs and intellectual property moving away?

I love ice skating so I would welcome that

Otoh Unst is where it's at for infinity and beyond.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-41977256

Why is the ‘EU cutting it’s nose off to spite it’s face’ howabout?

We’ve chosen to leave, they are making plans to manage with out us?

Do you honestly think we should keep the EMA and EBA even once we leave the EU?

What is your rationale for that?

See the BMA's letter on EMA.

On EBA could be argued that rEU's banking sector issues sufficiently different to UK to warrant move, but not if EBA becomes instrument of Franco/German hegemony.

The BMA letter is basically just a begging letter to not be forgotten because of Brexit. It's hardly a well argued philosophy for moving EU27 operations to the UK!

@howabout

What does this mean: if EBA becomes instrument of Franco/German hegemony.?

If the UK leaves the EU, what influence do you think it retain over the EBA?

The BMA warned about the loss of the EMA in its briefing to Parliament in October 2016:

www.bma.org.uk/-/media/files/pdfs/collective%20voice/influence/uk%20governments/future%20of%20the%20european%20medicines%20agency.pdf?la=en

Olivia UK has / had no / very little influence over EBA whether or not it stayed in the EU. The issue now is whether the EBA will have / seek to have any effective influence over banking regulation in the rEU outside France / Germany.

Its a moot point Howabout. The issue is the job losses and knock on effect to the British economy.

Not strictly Brexit related but a really thought provoking article on the changing thinking and technology around agriculture. Quite a lot more radical than the debate on chlorine washed chicken etc.

qz.com/1131428/if-the-entire-us-went-vegan-itd-be-a-public-health-disaster/?utm_source=atlfb

I think Gove has a point. Seen a lot of wrong on the internet about the last couple of weeks especially - increasingly from even "respected journalists".

eg Peston needing Barry Gardiner to enlighten him on the Ian Murray amendment

Sam Coates misrepresenting OBR analysis on stamp duty

Animal rights issue as referenced in the article

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42108236

Of course, you could just lobby Washington to relocate the US FDA to the building the EMA will be vacating. If there is no reason the EMA should leave, there is no reason the FDA can't be located here either. Any MHRA offices can then relocate to the US. Why aren't Brexiteers hard lobbying the US for that because they'd laugh in your face

If there is no logical reason for any regulatory authority to be based in the zone it regulates, that is.

Definitely Brexit related and pertinent to relocation of EMA.

Co-operation in medical research helps UK and just about any other country you'd care to mention.

EMA will be just like any other outside regulatory authority on Brexit. Why particularly zoom in on them? According to that reasoning, all the other countries/trade blocs are cutting off their noses to spite their face if they don't relocate to the UK too.

Or does the UK now want to accept the regulatory framework of any outside regulatory authority without being part of the decision making process? Maybe the Chinese one would suit better.

To repeat that catchy and informative phrase, Brexit means Brexit.

The Netherlands are delighted on the relocation. And it ain't a bummer for staff, is it? A pretty nice country with a good quality of life. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't provide temporary offices until the proposed building is ready . To get them moved quickly. They are thinking of the extra billions that will benefit their economy.

Wondering how the your place or mine conversations are going to go when the EMA wants to consult the UK medical agencies and related industry or indeed their US interactions?

huh?

What does that mean? There are already various interactions and a good cooperative relationship between FDA and EMA experts at an official level. No middle man needed. Two regulatory bodies with a comparable patient base. EMA has slightly different function as member states still have their own national regulatory bodies. That is because they are still sovereign states.

I don't think there will be angst about a non member state national regulatory body. The MHRA are excellent and they are an admirable agency. They will lose their influence in the EU now. I suspect the Japanese regulatory body is also not to be sneezed at. They don't have the same influence as a member state either.

What UK medical agency are the EMA going to consult?

And products manufactured will have to conform to EU standards to be sold in the EU. They will have to be imported and retested. Although very good, the MHRA has equivalents in expertise across member states. The Dutch national regulatory body will gain profile and a little prestige now. Don't forget many Pharma offices locate to be near the EMA.

Must mean MHRA as they are the UK regulatory body.

With the risk of taking over the thread, I have to say that the national, supra and international healthcare bodies don't usually think or act like Brexiteers. Thank goodness. Patient care and safety can affect people right across the globe. They are all more likely to cooperate and coordinate efforts for better outcomes.

If they are issues with efficacy or contamination, there may need to be recalled. Shortages can also be a global issue. Epidemics, pandemics.

Happy to be corrected if I am misunderstanding as I have no claims to medical expertise. As I understand it the EMA works by pooling the resources of Member States rather than supplanting them.

www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/about_us/general/general_content_000671.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac05809f8ed0