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Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....

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RedToothBrush · 05/11/2017 12:28

Lost track of politics in the last week or so?

Someone asked how do I keep on top of this? I’ve struggled this week there is so much going on.

Brexit seems to be on a bit of a back burner and we have become utterly swamped in mud and sleaze and corruption allegations

So here is a summary of the last week:

  1. Government defeated over the impact reports due to an ancient parliamentary protocol. They must release papers to the public though this is likely to be heavily redacted.
  2. Currently we are holding talks about talks with the EU. Instead of speeding up talks. They are annoyed at us for this.
  3. Baroness Anelay, the minister responsible for getting the Repel Bill through the Lords, quit citing an injury caused by jumping out of a helicopter several years ago. She was the second person to quit this role. Lord Bridges quit saying it was impossible task.
  4. Michael Gove has joined the Brexit Cabinet, which now has a majority of Leavers.
  5. There is currently no one employed at the Brexit department for strategic planning.
  6. Brexit Bill likely to face even more opposition in the face of Williamson’s self promotion. More Remainers who have been loyal to May talking of joining the Rebel Forces.
  7. The has been a threat to rig the Lords to pass the Repel Bill according to Lord Adonis
  8. Clegg, Adonis and Clarke went to see Barnier. Farage got jealous.
  9. Talks for Stormont broke down. No direct rule but not home rule. Who is ruling is a mystery, but the same can be said in England at present. DUP are not getting their dosh.
  10. FTA may not be possible on lines UK want as it would be better than Canada and South Korea and that’s not legally allowed. The real problem for the UK is services.
  11. EHCR related issues – prisoner voting rights and letter to Romanian which brings into question whether the EHCR is deliberately being flouted.
  12. Clause in the data protection bill which allows it to be ignored ‘cos immigration’.
  13. The Electoral Commission are being sued for allowing over spending by Vote Leave
  14. Arron Banks is being investigated by the Electoral Commission over how he donated to political causes
  15. UKIP whistleblowers reported donations they thought were odd and not declared but only just has come to light
  16. Arron Banks is winding up a charity under investigation by the Charities Commission
  17. Arron Banks paid for Kate Hoey to go to Washington DC.
  18. Lord Ashcroft apparently exposed by the Bermuda hack, like Robert Mercer
  19. Steve Baker reported for taking money from the mysterious donor to the DUP
  20. Priti Patel breaks ministerial code with an undisclosed trip to Israel with lobbyist. May says she has done nothing wrong, despite it being clear breech of the rules.
  21. Michael Fallon quit over multiple incidents
  22. Damien Green embroiled in accusation over Kate Maltby. Also having a fight with former counter terrorism copper who he has history with over ‘extreme porn’ found on his computer during a raid. Copper previously said he had been set up in the paper but dropped the accusation. Green is denying everything
  23. Charlie Elphicke has had the whip removed and case has been referred to police. Says he has done nothing wrong and isn’t even aware of what he has been accused of.
  24. Steven Crabb under investigation for sexting. Has apologised.
  25. Michael Garnier under investigation for dildo buying. Has apologised
  26. Daniel Kawcyznski allegedly tried to set up dates with aides and wealthy friends
  27. Dan Poulter reported by fellow tory MP Andrew Bridgen for allegedly putting hands up skirts. Whips told in 2010.
  28. Chris Pincher alleged pound shop Weinstein who attempted to untuck the shirt of former Olympic rower and tory activist Alex Story.
  29. Gavin Barwell former whip and May’s special adviser. Broke special advisor code by tweeting politically controversial things. Is accused of being complicit in hiding the bodies and not taking action.
  30. Gavin Williamson gave himself a promotion and pissed everyone off. As former whip knows all the dirt but is vulnerable as a result of that, as he didn’t report or discipline offenders.
  31. ‘The Lift Lunger’ – as yet unnamed Tory MP said to have ‘attacked’ Labour MP in taxi. Date rape drugs possibly involved.
  32. Boris Johnson, Alok Sharma and Tobias Ellwood all named as having contact with the mysterious Maltese professor named in the Papadopoulos indictment.
  33. Farage makes anti-Semitic remarks on LBC. That’s Farage, a person of interest to the FBI.
  34. Three indictments in USA for Trump Russia. Which implicate a whole load of people by association.
  35. Some stuff is going on in Saudi Arabia which should have half an eye kept on it.
  36. Jared O’Mara, Clive Lewis, Ivan Lewis and Kelvin Hopkins on the Labour Shit List. Also a rape allegation against a Labour activist which was shut down by a senior Labour figure

This week the Repel Bill and the Budget. Plus no doubt, lots more scandal.

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RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 13:20

George Eaton‏*@georgeeaton*
May has operated positive discrimination scheme for Brexiteers: Patel, Leadsom, Fox, Johnson all out of their depth.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/11/theresa-may-invited-trouble-putting-priti-patel-her-cabinet
Theresa May invited trouble by putting Priti Patel in her cabinet
TheInternational Development Secretary was promoted far beyond her means as a sop to Conservative Brexiteers.

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woman11017 · 08/11/2017 13:21

@MichaelLCrick

Supposing Priti Patel returns to Downing Street and has some highly convincing explanation for everything - and she must have some defence. The momentum is now such that May seems to have no option to sack her, whether that's fair or not, whether Patel's had due process or not

Without 'due process' has this country got any ethical currency left?

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:21

It's hardly poetry. It's a limerick that doesn't scan very well.

Never really been the crux of what makes a poem great though ?

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 13:21

Jane Merrick‏*@janemerrick23*

This story is so crazy it wouldn’t surprise me if Priti Patel got off the plane, walked through the gate and launched a leadership bid right then and there.

Do you think Ladbrokes have odds for this?

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PattyPenguin · 08/11/2017 13:26

Never really been the crux of what makes a poem great though ?

I hold that if you choose to use a particular verse form, you should abide by its rules.

If you don't want to (or can't), write in another form such as vers libre.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:27

May has operated positive discrimination scheme for Brexiteers: Patel, Leadsom, Fox, Johnson all out of their depth.

I advanced theory a few days ago that it's entirely possible this is how Brexit will be stopped. By the very Brexiteers who are supposed to push it though. Poison chalice and all that ?

One thing event the most dense Brexiteer (although that's quite a competition) could not accuse the Tories - and May of - is sabotaging Brexit by getting Leavers to manage it. She put Brexiteers into the 3 key roles, with all the ancillary arslikan they needed, and they still fucked it up.

In a way, it's a rare reversal for the Remainers to be able to point to those louche leavers and say it's their fault.

Either way, if 3 devoted Brexiteers can't manage to deliver Brexit, then who can ? The candyman ?

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 13:27

Even the BBC - the Tory party official news agency - are saying May must sack Patel.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:31

whether Patel's had due process or not

seems due process to me ... "Lets stop your benefits first, then investigate"

as I said, cry me a fucking river. Again.

There is nothing quite as nauseating as hearing Tories whine about real life. Here's a car crash from Eric Pickles. Notice Dimblebys retort - it's priceless ....

"You mean 'a job' ?"

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:31

Even the BBC - the Tory party official news agency

More toss than TASS ?

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 13:32

Ha!

woman11017 · 08/11/2017 13:33

We need to be careful what we wish for with May's demise.

Why is there wall to wall coverage of this today?

Radio 5 live had a torrent of scripts, as 'emails from listeners', this morning we would recognise word for word. The BBC. is getting to be like Pravda, you're right MrsR. And whatever they are telling us to think, it's easy to work out the opposite may be the truth or at least a truth?
Confused Confused

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 13:36

I no longer watch BBC news or listen to then radio
What'd the point?
But ch 4 have also been a bit odd in their coverage of brexit/Tory shenanigans
I'm reading the guardian a lot more

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 13:39

Fox is insane
Davis is retiring after march 2019 where to I wonder? Nice place in Tuscany maybe??
Johnson and give were never real leavers
JRM is like a character from a Wodehouse novel...as is farage...Roderick Spode anyone?

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:52

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Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....
OldEnglishSheepDog · 08/11/2017 13:53

Apologies for jumping in, have been lurking for some time....

Let me get this straight. Patel was probably doing some sly FTAs with the knowledge of No10 (but not Boris - which seems sensible), it came out and now TM is throwing her under a bus...? Is that where we are?

Meanwhile DD has claimed the dog ate his homework and is hoping to be embroiled in a sex scandal to distract everyone. BJ is brazenly lying despite video evidence against him and merrily endangering British citizens (a thought: when he goes to Iran, could we just do a straight swap?)

It all sounds like a coup could be on the horizon but honestly, who on earth would want to be Tory leader right now?

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:55

I no longer watch BBC news or listen to then radio

Haven't for years. A constellation of websites, and connections via SM (MN being one) seems to suffice.

R4 is great for non-current affairs though. The Unbelievable Truth, News Quiz/Now Show, various dramas and documentaries.

Ballsfffftpsss · 08/11/2017 13:56

Maybe that is the meaning of strong and stable.

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LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:56

Patel was probably doing some sly FTAs with the knowledge of No10

And in contravention of the UKs undertakings as members of the EU.

If nothing else, that could add a few billion to the divorce bill as a fine from the ECJ (is it ?). Or is it the Commission directly ?

HashiAsLarry · 08/11/2017 13:57

Gove.
Gove always wants leadership.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 13:57

strong and stable.

Stable (n)

An insubstantial structure with no foundations and usually full of shit.

(Jeremy Hardy).

OldEnglishSheepDog · 08/11/2017 14:00

@HashiAsLarry oh God don't. If that ever happens I will lead the revolution myself.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 14:04

Speaking of propaganda (yes it's Hugh Grant. Yes it looks as if it could be written by anyone):

Hugh Grant‏*@HackedOffHugh*
Anonymous evidence from former News Intl employee re Murdoch to the CMA. A spark in the fireworks box. Amazing.

Peter Jukes‏*@peterjukes*

Confirmation of what many of us have proved through extensive hacking at NOTW and the Kompromat of the Sun safe. Murdoch black ops

Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....
RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 14:05

Laura Kuenssberg‏*@bbclaurak*

Patel's constituency office denies making the arrangements for the crucial Sept 7th meeting

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OldEnglishSheepDog · 08/11/2017 14:07

Oh my - is she going to fight? This is certainly getting interesting.

In a similar way that the sinking of the Titantic was interesting....

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 14:07

gove!!??
I will take to the barricades myself!......