Is Anybody Making Personal Plans For Brexit?

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Very worried about it.

I have some savings, not loads, just a few thousand. I'm thinking maybe I should convert it into foreign currency. What do others think? I have a holiday aboard planned next year, I've converted all the spending money we'll need already and plan to pay for meals etc while we're there in cash.

I've been saving as much money as I can, our mortgage still has another eight years to run. I really need a new car and we had planned to get a new kitchen as ours is falling apart but don't think I can risk spending money on stuff like that now. At the same time I want to take my children abroad as much as we can now as I don't think we'll be able to afford to post 2019.

I wish we could leave the country for the EU but it's just not easy for us, no access to foreign passports, children settled in really good schools, and not easily transferable jobs.

For context, I'll almost certainly be losing my job because of Brexit in 2019, not sure what will happen with my husbands job, don't think he'll lose it but it will be negatively affected.

Is anybody else making plans to try to mitigate Brexit? If so any more suggestions for us?

Interesting how a thread about making plans for Brexit has been hijacked into a discussion about the alleged depredations caused upon the UK by immigration. But, let's be clear, nobody voted Brexit because they wanted to stop immigration, OK.

The HMRC document only includes the benefits that it adminsters - what are the figures when housing, disability and unemployment benefits are added?

One minute we are told "if you don't like it, then leave!"
Then we are told "If you leave you should not be allowed to come back!"
Jeeez, Brexiteers. You trying to permanently get rid of anyone who doesn't agree with you?

Well, that's exactly it - but, it's terribly confusing why anyone would find such sentiments creepy, right?

Then we are told "If you leave you should not be allowed to come back!

That was one person, why are you so hysterical?

Why don't you just read the report.
And why don't you look for a wider range of sources. Read up on economics. The only economists pro brexit have been widely discredited. See Minford et al.
Read proper stuff that criticises the EU like stuff by Mark Blyth who also says it's our best option.
Read How Corrupt is Britain and stuff by Naomi Klein about Disaster Capitalism.
I don't think the EU is the panacea to all evils but it's currently better than the alternative.
You remind me of my leave campaigning ukip acquaintance whose only reading source was completely narrow and one sided.

Completely agree. Derailed thread by biting.
I'm sorry.
Back to my plans.

hysterical?

Ooooo. Get back in your place, you person with a uterus, and your bias evidence

Theworldisfullofidiots thanks for posing that link, it's so important to bust these ridiculous myths. Perilous times in the UK.

OP in answer to your question, we are keeping a close eye on developments. Through DH we may be able to relocate to another country (actual have a choice between a EU country, Australia /NZ or Asia) possibly to ride out the worst. We'd be able to access private education if we relocate so that's good. We will make a decision once we know whether we brexit hard or soft -or not at a all--.

I feel desperately sorry for people who don't have this option and who voted remain. I am also ensuring that all our passports are current, we have money stashed away in a different currency and country and have family abroad who would put us up whilst we are finding our feet. I am grateful to have these options available to us but am angry and sad that the Conservative party has essentially destroyed this beautiful country. I love my country but I am not going to stick around to fight the impossible. We have an incredibly effective right wing media in the UK and people have sadly been brainwashed for decades.

Russia, the US, China, Saudi Arabia and a few select very wealthy individuals will benefit from Brexit (disaster capitalism and weakening of the UK opening doors for exploitation from the US Russia etc.) It would make a brilliant political thriller but the reality is dire.

But, let's be clear, nobody voted Brexit because they wanted to stop immigration

Actually two of my sisters did...
But I'm off now. Definitely.

when questioned on it.
You didn't question it .

Imminent/Element what do you find creepy? I am just a bit fed up with all these people, oh look at me with my dual citizenship, I can’t wait to leave, ok leave but why should you be able to come back, if it doesn’t work out for you, sometimes the grass isn’t always greener

User what is your opinion about those of us with Irish passports? (By the way the grass is greener in Ireland.) I'm not a dual-citizen. I only hold an Irish passport and identify solely as Irish. Yet I was born in the U.K. (though not GB) and my right to identify as Irish and be viewed equally in the law as British people is enshrined in the Belfast Agreement.
Plenty of leave voters in Britain seek to have no idea about the complexities of NI identity, how entwined the EU and an open "border" is with the Belfast agreement, and the political, financial and social ramifications of changing the status quo in the island of Ireland.
And the government are proposing no solutions at all. And the only one that could solve many of the issues has been ruled out by the DUP.
Thus, a Brexit that results in a peaceful and prosperous United Kingdom is impossible as things stand.

M4Dad would it be terribly hysterical of me to ask if immigration was a major reason for you voting leave? Just asking because I keep getting told that Brexit has nothing to do with immigration, and yet also has everything to do with immigration and we should respect the will of the people who all voted the way they did to drastically reduce immigration. Its confusing for my poor, hysterical female brain.

The underfunding of the NHS and the education system

They are underfunded because or population has exploded in the last decade and will continue to explode.

I read a study a while ago saying that of EU nationals a higher percentage work for the NHS than the percentage of the British population work for the NHS. This was working age people and includes dentist. I can't remember the numbers. So anyway, part of the 'population explosion' will have been coming here to work for the NHS and if they hadn't come and the other migrants also hadn't come the NHS would be even more stretched than it is now.

I'm going to make up the numbers for an example because I can't remember the exact figures.
Out of 100 working age British people 1 will work for the NHS
Out of 100 working age migrants, 2 will work for the NHS
As EU nationals tent to be young and healthy they don't use the NHS much so are a net benefit to health care provision in this country.

I'll try to find the link although I'm sure you won't believe it anyway.

fakenamefornow

Immigrants are vital to the NHS, we depend on them.

However, this is the difference between a good immigration system and a free for all.

We should welcome trained professionals into the UK with open arms. We should cherish and thank them.

I can't say the same for unskilled workers.

To those of you preparing to leave, I would go now, before things get worse. Get a head start.

I can't say the same for unskilled workers.

Well what exactly is an unskilled worker? Do you mean farm workers? Care workers? Who?

We are planning and prepping.

I am learning French. DH already can speak it as can eldest DD.

His work are facilitating working in other offices across Europe for short periods, and he plans to utilise this to network for a future move.

We're spending a month next year in the area we are looking to move to.

I am registering on the Irish foreign birth register next year and applying for passport the year after to spread out the cost. DH and the 2 DD already have Irish passports. Parents are currently down sizing and my DSis works in Europe she is also applying for an Irish Passport and learning French.

We're over paying on Mortgage and will rent out flat until it's paid off.

We had looked at Ireland but couldn't afford the cost of living, though we do have family there.

aaahhhBump

If you don't mind me asking- how old are your children?

Well what exactly is an unskilled worker? Do you mean farm workers? Care workers? Who

Let's just say I'd base our immigration system on Australia's.

I am learning French. DH already can speak it as can eldest DD.

You'd all be far better off learning German, France is a financial basketcase and could go under, also, it's unemployment levels are shocking.

Thisworldisfullofidiots
Eldest is 5 and has been attending French classes for 2 years. Youngest is 2 she's starting classes next year.

It is just luck DD5 wanted to learn. We went to EuroDisney and the language fascinated her. She asked to go to classes.

Love your name.

We don't know, do we, where aaahhh is moving to? Not necessarily France.

I think French is a very useful language as a lot of people of all nationalities have it, if not as their first language, as an additional one.

Guess when I changed it....
My eldest is 15. Wants to do the erasmus programme but it will probably be abolished.
Youngest has just started secondary school so we're stuck.

M4Dad
There's method in the madness. DH is looking to work in Luxembourg and would commute from Northern France. Commute is less than he does now and would be by train instead of driving. I can speak German already.

Lol at M4 Bot giving language learning advice.

Do, how many languages do you speak? Got a bit of a bugbear with the French I see, totally fixated and repetitive with your "basket case" description. "Totalitarian" appears a lot too. Try using synonyms, makes reading more pleasant and expands the mind which in your case appears to need expanding-

Had the UK actually bothered to engage with MFL more in education we wouldn't be in this mess. Language learning opens your mind and the door to other cultures. What us lacking in the UK is respect for other cultures, mainly imo based on ignorance.