Is Anybody Making Personal Plans For Brexit?

[fakenamefornow]

Very worried about it.

I have some savings, not loads, just a few thousand. I'm thinking maybe I should convert it into foreign currency. What do others think? I have a holiday aboard planned next year, I've converted all the spending money we'll need already and plan to pay for meals etc while we're there in cash.

I've been saving as much money as I can, our mortgage still has another eight years to run. I really need a new car and we had planned to get a new kitchen as ours is falling apart but don't think I can risk spending money on stuff like that now. At the same time I want to take my children abroad as much as we can now as I don't think we'll be able to afford to post 2019.

I wish we could leave the country for the EU but it's just not easy for us, no access to foreign passports, children settled in really good schools, and not easily transferable jobs.

For context, I'll almost certainly be losing my job because of Brexit in 2019, not sure what will happen with my husbands job, don't think he'll lose it but it will be negatively affected.

Is anybody else making plans to try to mitigate Brexit? If so any more suggestions for us?

@Flomper

That depends on the rules and regulations in the country where you would apply for citizenship. Laws vary across EU countries. The UK allows you to renounce your UK citizenship if you so wish - but I think you have to have another one lined up. You cannot make yourself stateless.

OP Idly browsing some other Brexit threads, I was somewhat intrigued by several Brexiteer posts in recent days, clearly inspired by your thread.

A common theme of these posts (as we've also seen here) is that it is hysterical, overreacting, scaremongering, cowardly, selfish etc etc for the contributors on your thread to be discussing ways to prepare for Brexit. Now of course I am [sic] bias, but it has seemed to me that the most hysterical and overreactive language has not been by Remainers.

I've thus far seen mention of shameful terrorising of vulnerable people, madness, running away, apocalypse (zombies optional), armageddon, deportation ships, hating the UK, hating poor people, stripping of citizenship, exaggeration of plans to buy a few extra tins into "stockpiling food!!!11!1!"... not to mention, of course, the aforementioned selfishness, hysteria and so forth.

Just me?

My kids have dual citizenship (and I will do too in due course).

If forced to choose, they would give up their British citizenship, partly because they were born here, partly because of Brexit - in the last 18 months their attitude to the UK has shifted significantly (for e.g. DD who is in the equivalent of Y13 has abandoned any thought of studying at a UK university - post-brexit Britain is distinctly less Cool Britannia in the eyes of a European teenager, and she is also concerned about stories about discrimination against European nationals).

As far as I'm concerned, I don't know. It would depend on a number of factors. I am glad I don't have to make the choice.

I've thus far seen mention of shameful terrorising of vulnerable people

Eh?

At the risk of bile from Leavers and inspired by others on this thread I think I might stock up on prosecco and champagne. They'll both last a long time and I'll be able to celebrate Christmas and New Year with them for a good few years to come.

School uniform might also be a good thing to stock up on.

I've just thought of a way of cashing in on Brexit, Arron Banks styleeee...
I could do prosecco and champagne runs for the needy.
Payment in hard currency only, mind, so stock up on your euros/dollars/Swiss francs etc.

Problem is you might be limited to duty free two bottles limit. No more booze cruise.

If I had to choose, I'd probably give up my UK citizenship and look at moving to another EU country, because even though this is my home, where I grew up and have lived most of my life, that act of making people renounce their other nationalities would be absolutely at odds with the (British) values I hold dear, and would make me worried for the future of the UK.

Thing is, moralistic (hysterical?) imaginations of "punishing" selfish runaway traitors for lack of patriotism aside, it is generally not immediately necessary to change one's citizenship when moving to another country. AFAIK depending on where you move to, you can usually live legally for years and years whilst keeping your citizenship. So it's hardly a realistic concern for most migrants.

I think Brexit was (overall) a necessary thing to do, but the execution of it is pretty rubbish at the mo.

I expect we will have a slightly turbulent 3 or 4 years, but life will go on much as usual. I think raised interest rates and peoples over reliance on credit is a bigger threat.

I'm planning to invest in a house in London, but will wait a couple of years in case the dip/ fall in prices continues. I will probably look at SW London, rather than around the City, as family homes may be more stable than swish flats for young, city workers.

I'm not stockpiling food, loo roll or investigating my ancestry in the hope of finding other passports I can apply for.

I love your optimism.
Esp seen that nearly 10 years on we are still struggling with the consequence of the last financial crash. And this was an event that was much smaller in magnitude than Brexit will be.

Hi,
Will get a British passport (my country allows dual citizenship) so that I can leave the UK knowing that I am able to come back when I want and for the length of time I want.

I will not let some idiots (mainly wealthy crooked right wing politicians) dictate what I can do with my life and sabotage my family's life. The idea of nationhood and citizenship is after all pretty recent in history including that which of passports and is fully exploited for propaganda purposes.

Moreover my DD has dual citizenship and should she choose to live in the UK, I want to be able to come back and help her should she need me without having to worry about being deported when visa runs out.

Chris Grayling seems to be slightly lacking in faith of the imminent Sunlit Uplands, as he suggests we will need to grow more food in the event of "no deal".

mobile.twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/919518380293541888

I expect we will have a slightly turbulent 3 or 4 years
Times that by 10

Over on another Brexit thread (well, a thread about the rising price of food) people are planning victory gardens as a mitigation. It's so fucking depressing that we voted ourselves into this mess.

people are planning victory gardens as a mitigation

Hysteria, overreaction, etc.

I love Chris Grayling's idea that we can 'just grow more' food.

Has he never heard of a) labour availability, b) space, c) the fact that a lot of our seedlings currently come from elsewhere in the EU, tariff-free and frictionless?

Cunt.

Sorry. Just really angry and depressed about it today.

I think the worst thing about it is the feeling noone is in charge. The whole project Brexit is so off course at the moment with most of the politicians I personally believe don't want Brexit as they can see where this is heading yet they are delivering what THE PEOPLE want. Its very scary that they continue to push on eventhough its obvious to anyone with half a brain cell where this is heading.

people are planning victory gardens as a mitigation.
Because it's very logical to start digging your front garden but say nothing about the fact you do NOT want Brexit (and it's food shortages and/or price increase)

There is still clearly a nostalgia abou the WW2 area, something about the UK being so great and look at what we did.
It's forgetting that people were digging for Britain because the situation was crap and it was that or not eating.

but say nothing about the fact you do NOT want Brexit

I think the problem is that lots for people DO still want Brexit. I just can't understand that even now, after all the lies have been exposed, people are starting to feel actual pain in their pockets, the gov refusing to publish it's own Brexit impact reports, anyone would still think leaving the EU is a great idea. And that doesn't even taking into account the perfect storm of the NI boarder.

I'm beginning to think people want pain as they have a nostalgia about Ww2 and getting through the blitz and people pulling together. Apart fro the fact the psychology doesn't translate e.g. common enemy etc the reality was different from the memory. Mass observation diaries show this.

Back to the original Q , yes am making plans. Paperwork for citizenship of EU country submitted last week (thanks for the pointers Misti). Had confirmation of receipt and that it will be a 6 month wait. 6 months! ! They must have plenty of requests .

Whatwouldrondo - brilliant post, following the fate of most brilliant Mumsnet posts of being solidly ignored. I agree completely that a rebalancing of the economy is fundamentally necessary.