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Is Anybody Making Personal Plans For Brexit?

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fakenamefornow · 10/10/2017 09:52

Very worried about it.

I have some savings, not loads, just a few thousand. I'm thinking maybe I should convert it into foreign currency. What do others think? I have a holiday aboard planned next year, I've converted all the spending money we'll need already and plan to pay for meals etc while we're there in cash.

I've been saving as much money as I can, our mortgage still has another eight years to run. I really need a new car and we had planned to get a new kitchen as ours is falling apart but don't think I can risk spending money on stuff like that now. At the same time I want to take my children abroad as much as we can now as I don't think we'll be able to afford to post 2019.

I wish we could leave the country for the EU but it's just not easy for us, no access to foreign passports, children settled in really good schools, and not easily transferable jobs.

For context, I'll almost certainly be losing my job because of Brexit in 2019, not sure what will happen with my husbands job, don't think he'll lose it but it will be negatively affected.

Is anybody else making plans to try to mitigate Brexit? If so any more suggestions for us?

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RhiannonOHara · 11/10/2017 10:05

France, Germany and the Netherlands have all recently rejected nationalistic far-right parties. Not by huge margins in some cases, sure, but nonetheless I find those outcomes generally heartening rather than dispiriting.

The UK will not be 'a large economy' outside the EU.

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 10:06

No, you're not the only one Elements.

Thank goodness, I wondered if I was the only one who had seen it for what it was. Creeeeeeeeeeeepy as fuck.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:07

Turning our backs on our nearest neighbours

How have we turned our backs?

When will people like you realise that we don't need a political union to be able to trade with each other.

The EU is a social engineering project and the vast majority of people will end up suffering - as they already are in Southern Europe.

RhiannonOHara · 11/10/2017 10:09

When will people like you realise that we don't need a political union to be able to trade with each other.

'people like you' Hmm

Anyway. Sure, we can still trade with the EU. The question, which our great and good in government don't seem to be able to get close to answering, is on what economic and social terms? The answer is almost certainly 'on worse terms than we have now.'

Therealslimshady1 · 11/10/2017 10:09

So many people whip themselves into a frenzy and panic mode, when it really does not help.

The press loves catastrophising as well.

The EU is not the land of milk and honey, it is a huge mess! Funny how we don't hear about Greece anymore, when that situation has not been resolved. There is a migrant crisis. There is a political crisis in Spain. France is a mess. The Netherlands is divided and did not have a government for almost a year...Also EU big wigs,like Juncker have not been democratically elected and cannot be removed by the people he supposedly represents...

This idea that the EU is brilliant confuses me so much.

Am not a Brexiteer by the way, I am an immigrant from an EU country, and have just applied for UK citizenship Grin

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/10/2017 10:10

The NHS is being run into the ground for ideological purposes but I except every story needs a scapegoat, in this case immigrants.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:10

France, Germany and the Netherlands have all recently rejected nationalistic far-right parties.

That could be said to be true, on the other hand, the nationalist right parties have become far more stronger and larger.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 11/10/2017 10:10

They are underfunded because or population has exploded in the last decade and will continue to explode.
And the government decided not spend the revenue from the taxes paid by migrants (and their is plenty of evidence of this) on infrastructure.
Thinking in this country is completely unjoined up.
We are creating jobs in areas with no infrastructure whilst simultaneously keeping open tiny primary schools with no natural population.
Absolutely nothing to do with the EU.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:11

The NHS is being run into the ground for ideological purposes but I except every story needs a scapegoat, in this case immigrants

Yes, let's just ignore the population explosion of the last decade but it doesn't find your agenda.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/22/uk-population-shows-sharpest-rise-almost-70-years

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 10:13

Immigrants immigrants immigrants...

Look over there! A squirrel!

Theworldisfullofidiots · 11/10/2017 10:14

And let's ignore the lack of funding because it doesn't fit your m4dad

GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/10/2017 10:15

Thanks to Brexit and the cut in bursaries for trainee nurses we have less recruits from uk and eu into nursing. Ideology on both counts.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:15

And the government decided not spend the revenue from the taxes paid by migrants (and their is plenty of evidence of this) on infrastructure.

All the evidence is bias.

People have been brainwashed into thinking that that millions of hotel workers, cleaners, etc actually create a positive impact on the economy. The impact is neglible and then is further eroded when you take into account the pressure it puts of local and social services.

Couple A move into the UK and take two menial jobs, they are then given benefits from the UK goverment to top up their wages.

If we're giving them money - how can they be providing a positive impact on the economy.

RhiannonOHara · 11/10/2017 10:16

M4Dad, yes, sure, but on the other hand France, Germany and the Netherlands have all recently rejected nationalistic far-right parties.
Grin

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:18

yes, sure, but on the other hand France, Germany and the Netherlands have all recently rejected nationalistic far-right parties

That’s only good news if those parties lost more of the vote, they didn’t, they gained far more of the vote than they did previously.

RhiannonOHara · 11/10/2017 10:20

Sure. Nonetheless, UKIP looked to be doing quite well here for a while. Now, not so much.

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 10:20

All the evidence is bias.

Grin Grin Grin

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:21

Nonetheless, UKIP looked to be doing quite well here for a while. Now, not so much

That's because their work is done.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:22

All the evidence is bias

Show me the evidence then.

user1486062886 · 11/10/2017 10:23

Imminent/Element what do you find creepy? I am just a bit fed up with all these people, oh look at me with my dual citizenship, I can’t wait to leave, ok leave but why should you be able to come back, if it doesn’t work out for you, sometimes the grass isn’t always greener

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 10:23

Show me the evidence then.

But you just said all the evidence is [sic] bias! Therefore there is no evidence; and who needs evidence anyway when you have your own common sense and what you can see with your own eyes, right?

Summerswallow · 11/10/2017 10:25

fionnbharr I agree with you, I think there's few EU countries I'd move to in terms of them being incredibly much safer, more secure, offer citizenship quickly (I think Germany is 5 years residency which is an unstable time then for your family), less nationalistic and in which there is a plethora of jobs for yourselves and your children out of schooling (in Germany young people stay in education til mid-twenties). We have friends who moved to Germany who are non-white and they moved straight back to England, they found it extremely xenophobic and prefer to live here- they have businesses there which they manage remotely rather than live there!

I'm sure there are lots of countries with good health-care systems, or nice weather (!) or better state support systems (Nordic countries) but people seem to be forgetting that a) lots of countries do have high unemployment and high competition for jobs and b) you will be an immigrant yourself, so perhaps more unstably housed/not with full rights and so on, and even not welcomed with open arms yourself!

I don't think the UK is better- I dislike the slow decline of the country through the mismanagement of the economy, the state of the roads, the propping up through quant easing/low mortgage rates that has hidden just how deep the last recession was, low % increase in my wages against the high % increase in my bills/food in the past decade, the NHS stretched etc. but I don't see a country that is temptingly much better and which I, as an immigrant, could just waltz in and make an honestly much better life than the one I have now which is really quite nice (nice house, good job, not quite as much money as I'd like, kids in excellent schools, no real issues getting GP appointments). Also, as a non-EU immigrant- in future, you may not have full access to benefits in your chosen country so if you get sick/may need insurance/may have difficulties if you need care.

It's different if you are losing your job because of Brexit- but then a lot of people lost their jobs in the last (and ongoing) recession, I know lots, and most have got new jobs or retrenched economically.

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 10:26

what do you find creepy?

I'm sure you don't find it creepy in the slightest, in fact you would of course feel it to be the most natural, righteous, patriotic and upstanding point of view.

I accept that. And nevertheless find your point of view creepy as hell.

We should simply agree to disagree.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 10:28

But you just said all the evidence is [sic] bias! Therefore there is no evidence

So you can't show me any evidence then?