Is Anybody Making Personal Plans For Brexit?

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Very worried about it.

I have some savings, not loads, just a few thousand. I'm thinking maybe I should convert it into foreign currency. What do others think? I have a holiday aboard planned next year, I've converted all the spending money we'll need already and plan to pay for meals etc while we're there in cash.

I've been saving as much money as I can, our mortgage still has another eight years to run. I really need a new car and we had planned to get a new kitchen as ours is falling apart but don't think I can risk spending money on stuff like that now. At the same time I want to take my children abroad as much as we can now as I don't think we'll be able to afford to post 2019.

I wish we could leave the country for the EU but it's just not easy for us, no access to foreign passports, children settled in really good schools, and not easily transferable jobs.

For context, I'll almost certainly be losing my job because of Brexit in 2019, not sure what will happen with my husbands job, don't think he'll lose it but it will be negatively affected.

Is anybody else making plans to try to mitigate Brexit? If so any more suggestions for us?

Longer read www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-12/hard-brexit-would-cost-u-k-15-000-per-person-rabobank-says

I know, come and tell me it's scaremongering, that we won't actually pay that much each. Whatever, with Hard Brexit / No Deal, difficult times are coming.

I do think it's terribly sad that those most likely to suffer the hardest impact will be those who voted to leave. Ironic but sad as they were sold a pup.
Let's hope someone comes to their senses and calls a halt to this whole shambolic business.

Unfortunately with all news, everything is angled to suite the writer/editor agenda, this could be true, but no counter arguments in the piece. On a slightly different note, a local village near was once in a weekend paper as 1 of the top ten places in the uk to live, it was well known that the writer and his partner both had properties up for sell in said place, True story or hidden agenda ?

That's ok though user. After all we have the likes of the Sun, the Mail and the Express to provide balance and confirm how great Brexit is going to be and how anything negative is the fault of Remoaners not Beleaving and the evil EU punishing the plucky Brits.

Look at the petrol shortage crisis

Yes, this. I remember the queues of angry people at the petrol stations, the shelves stripped bare of food. I bet those people who had fortuitously topped up their cars before the strikes were feeling pretty relieved that they had done so.

At this point, I am in no way expecting blockade of the ports and mass starvation, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were (even if Brexit turns out Sunlit-Uplands-swimmingly) some implementation hiccups on "Independence Day" and shortly thereafter. If, as Jay Rayner says, the country only has up to 3 days' supply of certain foods, it might make "hysterical" sense to at least ensure you have a backup stock of nonperishable basics.

user, if we want to talk about hidden agendas I can tell you what really boils my piss:

Following economic downturns, property price crashes etc there are people who do very well snapping up assets at bargain prices, and waiting for them to increase in value.
This is completely understandable- if I had the enough spare cash to buy up property during a housing market crash and wait for years before selling it, perhaps I would do the same. However, there are investors who have made their money doing this over and over - they will also swoop into a country following deregulation, as they have the money to quickly take advantage of such a situation.
If there are economic problems post Brexit, I guarantee that these investors will do very well out of it (eventually, the economy will recover). What I really object to is that certain (influential) investors with a history of making money this way have been funnelling money into Brexit campaigning, and are lobbying for a hard brexit. They are poised to take advantage of the same economic fallout which may destroy the livelihoods of both remain and leave voters.

Surely if people were to get silly and panic buy, those who already have a modest store of non-perishables will be glad they do!

Disaster capitalism innit??

Disaster capitalism is one thing, but actively creating the disaster in order to profit it is beyond the pale for me.

Surely if people were to get silly and panic buy, those who already have a modest store of non-perishables will be glad they do!

I would expect Brexiteers to put their money where their mouth is, and do literally no preparation at all (as per suggestion way upthread) - not only should they not keep a supply of food, but they should spendspendspend any savings they have, maximise debts and generally use up resources as wastefully as possible in anticipation of the guaranteed Sunlit Uplands which can never go wrong. Anything less than this, I would consider showing a disturbing lack of faith (which as we know is Willing Brexit to Fail) .

You all sound like you're preparing for a zombie apocalypse.

People buying up masses of tinned food, do you think the UK will plummet to worse-than 3rd world conditions?

I want to answer by another question.
What is making you think that this is NOT a possibility and that there is no way that will happen?

Any answer along the lines of 'because it's the UK, we are one of the biggest economy in the world etc...' not accepted.

And I would also appreciate an answer not just along the lines of economic but also looking at human rights, protection of people, health care, education etc etc

You all sound like you're preparing for a zombie apocalypse.

Really? Really?

Second passports and tinned chickpeas? You have been grossly misinformed about what a zombie apocalypse would look like.

I am really finding this all a bit Chicken Licken.
I appreciate that people are worried about their futures but humans are by nature resilient and adaptable (at least we used to be) and I think that we will find solutions for the problems Brexit causes.
I wonder too if there is a political motive for all the scaremongering. Brexit will be halted if enough people shout hysterically. I voted for Remain. I don't like the idea of leaving Europe and all the uncertainties that presents and it has already negatively impacted on some members of my family but threads like these are ridiculous.
If I am being totally honest I think back to the past when things like the closing of the mines happened (I grew up in a mining town) and remember that people were told to accept it and get on with it. That being the case, why should I really care that some mumsnetters are moaning because they'll lose their funding for their academic research or their husband may have to move abroad with his job in finance?

It's fine if you don't care about what happens to other people.

But may of us do care, as it will affect the whole of our society. A vote to leave just on the off chance that in 30 years time we will be back to where we were before the referendum maybe, seems to be a bit dismissive of all the people who will lose their jobs due to the depression that will very likely follow, not to mention the massive cuts in the NHS and other services due to a considerably reduced tax take which will cost many many lives.

The rest of us aren't so happy with that prospect.

squishy

People buying up masses of tinned food, do you think the UK will plummet to worse-than 3rd world conditions?
No, but I think there might be delays and shortages leading to mayhem at the shops that I'd rather sit out. You know, much like Christmas Eve, which I also try to avoid.

Silly hysterical me.

We have to care when it affects the monied middle-class, but not when entire industries were decimated one after the other?

It's not just the monied middle class who will be losing their jobs, and it won't be just the monied middle classes who won't be able to get adequate health care.

What on earth made you think it was?

You can't say for absolute certain CardinalSin that Brexit means that there won't be adequate health care. I recall being given a leaflet by a NHS worker prior to the referendum which urged people to vote for Bexit as this was the best thing for the NHS's future. It is extraordinary that people should post with such blind certainty about what is going to happen. Have the intellectual honesty to admit you, like everybody else, has no clue what the future holds.

cowgirls, did the leaflet say HOW leaving was the best thing for the NHS's future?

I recall being given a leaflet by a NHS worker prior to the referendum which urged people to vote for Bexit as this was the best thing for the NHS's future.

Well, I recall adverts showing no waiting times for the NHS and people being seen promptly. I assume this was to do with the £350 million a week for the NHS, which was immediately reneged on. There has been absolutely no commitment whatever that I can see that Leave politicians will promise significant funds for the NHS.

I can't say for absolute certain, but the direction of travel certainly suggests that, and those much derided experts seem to mostly think that way.

But why is it worth the risk?

I'm moving to France for a year in October 2018, so I don't know what I can do at the moment.

Yes.it did Rhianna.