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Is Anybody Making Personal Plans For Brexit?

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fakenamefornow · 10/10/2017 09:52

Very worried about it.

I have some savings, not loads, just a few thousand. I'm thinking maybe I should convert it into foreign currency. What do others think? I have a holiday aboard planned next year, I've converted all the spending money we'll need already and plan to pay for meals etc while we're there in cash.

I've been saving as much money as I can, our mortgage still has another eight years to run. I really need a new car and we had planned to get a new kitchen as ours is falling apart but don't think I can risk spending money on stuff like that now. At the same time I want to take my children abroad as much as we can now as I don't think we'll be able to afford to post 2019.

I wish we could leave the country for the EU but it's just not easy for us, no access to foreign passports, children settled in really good schools, and not easily transferable jobs.

For context, I'll almost certainly be losing my job because of Brexit in 2019, not sure what will happen with my husbands job, don't think he'll lose it but it will be negatively affected.

Is anybody else making plans to try to mitigate Brexit? If so any more suggestions for us?

OP posts:
lalalonglegs · 11/10/2017 16:33

CardinalSin - I see your loony immigration story of the day and raise you

Home Office try to deport man legally living in UK

In a three-year ordeal, the Home Office threatened to deport the historian Stuart Ross three times, suggested he was lying about his wife’s work as a Spanish language teacher and refused to accept a judge’s verdict in a Belfast court that officials had been wrong to refuse the 49-year-old a PR card when he first applied in 2013.

It beggars belief.

user1486062886 · 11/10/2017 16:33

“When are you going home”, is this any worse than people saying to my electrician son, it would be better get a pole/Portuguese in to do your job, no wonder people form opinions

squishysquirmy · 11/10/2017 16:40

cardinalSin and lalalonglegs those cases are awful! Angry
And those are examples of people with the resources and capability to fight it and raise their cases in the media. How many more families must there be who are in similar situations that we will never know about because they are less able to kick up a (justified) fuss?

Pibplob · 11/10/2017 16:44

I have only read a few pages so need to read the rest of the thread but is it really going to be so bad? Emigrating? Stock piling food? No holidays for people that can usually just about scrape the money together?

I haven't been that worried but this thread is starting to worry me.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 16:46

Some people may actually hate to buy their Pate from Aldi - that's if Aldi don't get asked to leave the country when Brexit kicks in, what a bunch of racists.

LewisThere · 11/10/2017 16:53

M4 yes people have said directly to me (or my dcs)
At my work (so you are talking about clients coming in), my IL (yes family....) and my dcs has been told to 'go back to his own country' (fwiw he is french but also British and as never jknown any other country than the UK).

Your question seems to say that these xenophobic comments only exist in the papers. Thatbthey are some sort of urban legend.
Two things in that, as many people have said on this thread too, they are reality.
Second, even if they are urban legend, they have been fuelled but the attitude of the government an all their proposals for listing foreigners, asking them to prove they can have X and y etc... (even though it's physically impossible for any EU citizens to prove anything as we do not have any visa, residence card etc...).
The idea has always been to make it so that foreigners are feeling unwelcome to deter people coming in. It also has the effect of making people who are legally settled here feeling very bad about being here as well as encouraging xenophobist to air their ideas wo feeling bad about it (and wo the social pressure telling them not to do it)

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 16:54

is it really going to be so bad?

Who really knows? Maybe it's going to be wall-to-wall unicorns. For me personally, it's mostly just contingency planning.

But, even the most ardent Brexiteers now (mostly) agree that "nobody ever said it was going to be easy," "it's going to be tough," "short term pain for long term gain," or even "any price is worth suffering for sovereignty". Therefore, in the face of uncertain times whatever the cause, surely it's entirely sensible (not "hysterical") to rein in unnecessary spending, pay down debt, build up savings etc etc?

Having said we're planning to emigrate (or "run away" like the unpatriotic traitors we are), this is not likely to happen in the near future but in maybe 3-4 years' time. It's a long-term plan (hey, there's that long term thinking we're supposed to be doing!) which is about where our DC will grow up/work/build their lives and where we will might retire etc.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 16:56

Lewis

I'm only saying that because I've never experienced it. I live in a very working class town and my work has nationalities from all over the world.

Whilst I don't deny it exists, as it exists in every country I'm just saying that I haven't experienced it for myself. Not once.

LewisThere · 11/10/2017 16:57

Pib I suggest you read arou de the subject and see what sort of forecast economists have out together. Or listen to P Hammond saying (today?) that planes might not be able to leave the country (or land).

Yes it will be THAT bad. Food will struggle to come in (because of the issue with customs clearance and the fact we import 60% of the food).
Pound might well collapse like it has several times since the vote. Plus the might be some issue going abroad anyway (visa, planes, passport not being valid). And unemployment will rise (it has already started - see the number if companies that are moving away and the scream from companies and the economic sector about it. If they are worried, I think we need it be too)

Kursk · 11/10/2017 16:57

**user1486062886- If people want to run away or abandon people who can’t for what ever reason move aboard, you should have to give up your British passport and apply for a visa if you wish to return, where is your pride in your Country

Fair point I did just that. We moved to the USA and I applied for and got US citizenship. I have no intention of moving back to the UK.

I have a feeling that WW3 is going to start in the next few years which will make Brexit seem pointless anyway.

LewisThere · 11/10/2017 16:58

M4 well you are lucky.

It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist though....

LewisThere · 11/10/2017 17:01

I remember a thread on here about racism and how welcoming the UK was, how much better it is compare to all other countries etc...
It was before Brexit and the referendum.
I'm wondering what would the thread look like nowdays....

Iflyaway · 11/10/2017 17:01

If people want to run away or abandon people who can’t for what ever reason move aboard, you should have to give up your British passport and apply for a visa if you wish to return, where is your pride in your Country Am I the only one who finds this sentiment seriously damn creepy in so many ways?

No. Not at all. And I am glad you reiterated this. I find it extremely creepy.

Coming from two parents who went through WWII. In mainland Europe. Oh, the irony - many of you are not aware of why the EU was formed.

I think we need it more now than ever what with the creeps Trump and Kim rattling their sabres.....
After centuries of infighting among European nations.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 17:03

many of you are not aware of why the EU was formed

Was it formed so that the UK didn't have to keep bankrupting itself from continuously defeating Germany in two world wars?

Theworldisfullofidiots · 11/10/2017 17:03

My lovely English friend who has a German accent (her mother was German) gets asked periodically when she is going. Her daughter does too even though she has an English accent but has a German name.

ftw · 11/10/2017 17:05

We've delayed spending significant amounts of cash to fix house and instead are throwing everything at the mortgage. If others are also not spending where they don't absolutely have to, there's a ton of damage already being done to the economy...

I hadn't thought about stockpiling, but it's probably worth a thought. (Trouble is, we'd have now to store it all in a leaky loft - see my previous point... Wink)

I already buy my pâté at Aldi M4, but I am concerned about my local Aldi not being able to sell it anymore when the food can't get into the country or me not being able to afford it because our currency is worthless.

nNina22 · 11/10/2017 17:07

'I have a feeling that WW3 is going to start in the next few years which will make Brexit seem pointless anyway.'

If so all these contingency plans will be pointless as well.

What a depressing thread this is - UK depicted as a stinking land of xenophobic, racist, immigrant haters top down as well as bottom up (to paraphrase some of the posters here).

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 17:10

but I am concerned about my local Aldi not being able to sell it anymore when the food can't get into the country or me not being able to afford it because our currency is worthless

Nothing personal, but all you and your fellow reaminers have done is build up a kind of mass hysteria. Shown in your post here.

nNina22 · 11/10/2017 17:17

Mass hysteria is right. During World War 2 the population were encouraged to grow their own food in times of harsh rationing.

ftw · 11/10/2017 17:22

Shown in your post here.

Where? I see no hysteria. I see someone worried that the pound will fall and food supply chains will be disrupted.

M4Dad · 11/10/2017 17:26

I see someone worried that the pound will fall and food supply chains will be disrupted

See, that's a normal thing to say.

food can't get into the country or me not being able to afford it because our currency is worthless

That's verging on hysterical.

ftw · 11/10/2017 17:31

I'm worried the pound will fall really far and the supply chains will be seriously interrupted.

How's that on your hysteriometer?

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 17:36

I’m going to “hysterically” carry on minimising unnecessary spending, building up savings and paying down debt to the maximum of my ability. And “hysterically” quietly making my long term family plans and arrangements.

user1486062886 · 11/10/2017 17:37

In what way is this creepy? Perhaps it doesn’t come across as I meant it to, people who can move on, sticking two fingers up to people, who can’t or don’t want to leave and stay and work through what might happen, instead of running away the instant something bad might happen, it seems a case of I’m alright jack, what’s happened to sticking and pulling together, not everybody who stays voted to leave. I thought the common market was formed as a trading block, not what it’s grown in to.

TheElementsSong · 11/10/2017 17:39

Still creepy IMO, sorry.