Westminstenders: The Maddest of May and Boris's Dare

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Boris Johnson just dared May to fire him.

That's what his little rant about £350 million buses is.

Meanwhile its been pointed out that HMRC literally are incapable of handling a no deal and can only cope with an EEA / EFTA deal with no tariffs.

And given how good and on time the government are with computer systems even in a best case scenario are extremely unlikely to crack it in time.

Which makes Hammond's talk of a civil contingence plan, look, well half arsed and lacking.

We also wouldn't have planes able to fly to Europe under a no deal as we would no longer be part of Open Skies. This could leave thousands stranded. But no biggie there.

Meanwhile if the Leave Alliance have things right, May is about to serve our one year notice on leaving the EEA making all these things a reality.

Which is less like shooting yourself in the head and more like shooting yourself in the head, chest, foot, arm, leg and face (for a second time), whilst being run over at the same time.

But hey, Boris Johnson has it sussed in his 10 point plan. Especially the point where he says Brexit will be a success.

If you call success ending democracy, becoming a dictatorship, starving everyone, bankrupting the country and causing civil unrest.

Rule Britannia.

If Boris Johnson's latest pearls of wisdom help to destroy the Tory party, I will shed no tears at all.

...ita almost as if they want brexit to fail isn't it?????.....

I don't feel like I can contribute to these threads anymore. I don't know any good recipes.

woman I think Bojo has made a last desparate attempt to drum up Tory support for him to take over.
However, he is damaged goods and his time has past.

Instead, watch out for DD, Steve Baker or Moggy
Hammond only has a chance if sufficient Tory MPs believe the Ultras will cost them their seats

You can be our teat eater. I can't summarise your user name, so I am going to refer to you as vowels.

I still think Moggy, as well as being an idiot is too Catholic for the Tory Establishment. I don't myself think that Hammond has enough support.

DD then???
Fuck me....

Thanks pointy that's my kind of food

teat eater

😂 Awesome typo 😂

While we're on cheap recipes, two very popular ones in our house are red peppers stuffed with couscous and feta (Miguel Barclay book), and cauliflower clafoutis (some magazine I was flicking through in a waiting room, looked good so I snapped a photo on my phone).

Obama remains very popular in Germany and the CDU is using his earlier endorsement of Merkel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/obama-is-back-on-the-campaign-trail-in-germany-or-at-least-his-face-is/2017/09/12/5f23931e-97b9-11e7-af6a-6555caaeb8dcstory.html?utmterm=.d02e23e750322_

Barack Obama was on his final overseas trip as U.S. president last November,
...
“If I were German and I had a vote, I'd support her"
.....
in recent days at Berlin bus stops and subway stations, parks and central squares.
....
Beneath Obama’s face is a translation of last year’s endorsement:
“Wenn ich könnte, würde ich Merkel wählen.”

The decision to feature a former U.S. president in a German election campaign
..... a highly unusual move, but one that reflects Obama’s special status here.

He transfixed Germans with his speech beside Berlin’s Victory Column during the 2008 campaign,
and he later bonded with Merkel over the details of issues such as climate change and Russian sanctions.

When Obama left office,
86 percent of Germans said they trusted him^ to do the right thing in global affairs, according to the Pew Research Center.
^
His successor, Trump, earns the trust of only 11 percent.

Interesting that the German conservatives find Obama's support so useful,

whereas the UK right - who fawned on other US Presidents - loathe him

I wonder what was different about him

Brexit would be going so differently if that lunatic Trump hadn't won
The US post-WW2 generally slaps down the UK for delusions of power. Certainly before disasters

Any normal US President would be firmly ordering May to do an EEA/EFTA deal and avoid the cliff edge.
That bugger Putin must be wetting himself laughing at the coming chaos

whereas the UK right - who fawned on other US Presidents - loathe him

Was that because he was black, or introduced Obamacare, or both? And now of course, Trump can do no wrong for them - probably the most incompetent president in any of our lifetimes, making even Dubya look almost relatively normal. We thought he was bad enough.

Been at a birthday party. Sad to see we've not processed beyond I believe in fairies but not fairies with imaginary wings arguments. Shame the crib sheet hasn't been updated.

Happy to see we've hit crab apple jam and curry recipes though. Pity the inventiveness is remainer inventiveness though. No wait...

Apparently trump administration is not going to withdraw from the Paris climate accord....

I am cringing quietly in a corner at that typo...

It's a wonderful typo :-)

Offally good.

The best sort of typo -pointy

Belated place marking

Trout has been hitting the Kool Aid...
'Nationhood'? Why is that notion important?

LOL @ 'I can't have racist attitudes because I have brown skin'.
Or xenophobia because I come from immigrant stock...

I want a healthy, sustainable level of immigration to the UK from all over the world - not just 27 countries that happen to be closer to us. But a nation without borders is not a nation. We need controlled numbers and be able to focus on skills we can't find or train here.

And they can live in dorms because they won't be able to get a mortgage or rent a home, and they had better not fraternise with the locals, because that only leads to One Thing, and who wants a bunch of children named Oliwia or Saoirse or Marco taking up places in British schools, and they can send their income home, because British banks won't allow them to open accounts. And like the American doctor who was recently mentioned on these threads, the one whose family was denied permission to move here, they can forget about bringing their spouses and children with them.

Part of making the UK an attractive place for anyone, let alone well qualified forriners, is the perception that it is not a hostile environment for people who are not fully British in their hearts and souls.

So well done KilgoreTrout for showing all those well qualified would be immigrants that perhaps they should think twice about Britain.

I sincerely hope your attitude does not represent the feeling of the 52% who voted Leave.

Trout - if you hate the EU so much, you yourself have had options for the last 40 years. What has kept you living under such an oppressive and hateful regime?

Trout

You keep on on banging on about limiting immigration - do you understand that successive British governments have always had the power to limit immigration, even while a member of the EU?

Do you ever wonder why successive British governments have decided not to?

Is it possible that a Leaver voted for Brexit out of ignorance of reality, and blamed the EU for something the British government could have easily remedied?

If limiting immigration is a concern of 52% of the population, how could successive British governments have missed that?

Are British governments deaf to the concerns of the majority of the British people?

Or could it be that only a small number of people really care either way about immigration so the lack of action on this front is completely reasonable...

And of course it would have been impossible for Leave to win if the campaign had come right out and called future UK working conditions 'slavery', just as it would have been impossible for Leave to win if the slogan on the bus had told the truth about the money for the NHS. Or if there had just been no bus. Or without that poster, the one with Nigel Farage in front. The one that promoted racism, which you have no part of whatsoever.

Slavery would of course have been called something like 'our peculiar institution' or 'proliferation of zero hours (and zero rights) contracts means we can claim full employment'.

Trout
Love the Irish and Ireland. It is my spiritual homeland.

The fuck you do, and the fuck it is.

Your vote to leave the EU scuppered the GFA and put the Irish economy and Irish civil society in dangerous waters.

You can't have it both ways.

Trout
The contracting cleaning company switched and put all the former employees on absolute minimum wage with a tiny fraction of what the previous employees enjoyed in terms of benefits etc. The new company actively hires in Portugal. They are all lovely people but to believe that this some Liberal fair-minded utopia is just bunkum. FOM favours large corporations because it allows them to make more profit by hiring cheaper labour from poorer parts of the EU.

But...but...but... how on earth could a British company legally cut the wages and benefits of British workers? Are there no British labour laws or unions to plead the British workers' cause? No minimum wage regulations or courts where your average citizen can stop a company from doing this?

Are you implying that the wages of British workers possibly weren't enough to pay their rent or their mortgages? Who is in charge of housing policy, and are there not enough social housing units to guarantee that people can afford to work and at the same time live indoors?

This is inconceivable.

I simply can't believe what you have posted about the choices of this British employer to tend to its bottom line without any consideration at all for its employees.

You would be tempted to suspect that this company might eventually employ people for room and board - or less - if it could get away with it, but that would be called slavery and that would be unthinkable.

Bad, bad EU. Look what it made that British company do.

In my disgust at the patronising nature of calling Ireland a spiritaul homeland I totally missed that according to their own logic, proclaiming a forrin country thus is surely worthy of the question... so what's keeping you in Britain?

That's amused me now, for about the first time today.

Sadly the anti-people of colour, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish sentiment is much more widespread than just weirdos online in England at the moment.