Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

Changing they way they were calculated would explain the fall.

Although there was a rise last year anyway.

In that YouGov poll, Bojo was still favourite for next Tory leader, even among the general public.
However, that was before Grenfell.
Hence maybe his aggression now

As a rule fire safety has improved and there are less fires - due to better regulations and better fire safety. This HAS reduced the number of fire related incidents.

That is certainly true in the long term, we're much better protected and informed since I was a kid. Fire safety is much more effective.

But I'm suspicious of the speed of the fall under Boris and the fireman's post on the changes in how death are calculated makes sense.The same has been done with crime figures, so I find his testimony credible.

Boris as PM is def over hence the tantrum.

There does seem real fury by Tory politicians and media against anyone talking about Grenfell.
Imo, they are trying desperately to get their anger in first, before the facts about cuts come out
They are clutching at any straw.
The less informed rightwing & Brexit MN posters too. All circling the wagons in an ignorant huddle.

They are hoping this will all die down quickly and people will forget, while imo the enquiry can delay criminal proceedings

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-the-sun-journalist-impersonate-victim-relative-interview-source-fridge-a7793371.html
Grenfell Tower fire: The Sun denies journalist 'impersonated victim's relative' to get interview
London's Kings College Hospital says it has 'formally written' to the newspaper'and will be informing the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso)'

Independent seem to be sticking with the story...

From The Guardian (I can't find any information about what perpetuated the downwards trend in the early noughties):

Johnson is correct about fire safety improving during his terms as mayor. However, as this chart from the London fire brigade shows, that has to be seen in the context of a pre-existing trend downwards that had started well before Johnson assumed office in 2008.

Whilst this is not a direct link with Tyson Boris has made some very dubious decisions 're planning as Mayor www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2015/oct/01/london-garden-bridge-lambeth-council-tfl-funding-end-of-road

I wonder if people start digging more we can find more evidence of 10s of lions on Boris vanity projects at the same time as voting down positive changes for social housing

But the poor don't matter gwaff gwaff

Sorry Rydon not Tyson

Just thinking about austerity, if you think about it the Tories cut frontline services and police, hospitals, council budgets, libraries, social care. All the things that don't matter to them because they can afford to pay for private healthcare and all the rest. But there is no private fire service. I suppose no Tory MP lives in a tower block so the risk is less great where they live, but theoretically they could still have a house fire for whatever reason and need the fire brigade asap. Unless they just think "that kind of thing will never happen to me".

What did Laura Perrins say on Question Time last night? This article alleges she 'basically blamed immigrants for the fire...'

Did she?

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/06/16/powderkeg-britain-people-died-in-grenfell-tower-because-they-are-poor-and-the-media-are-trying-to-hide-it-strong-language/

She basically said London had a housing crisis and those residents shouldn't have been housed there in the first place. She really didn't make any sense but was indirectly trying to say 'many of them were immigrants so why were they housed in poor overcrowded London in the first place'.

You can probably see a clip of her waffle on Twitter.

A Tory from Dublin, the shame.

But there is no private fire service

Give them time ...

Fire services started as private companies. They would only put out fires in buildings that paid them. Then insurance companies woke up and realised that having to pay out for a building that burnt down because it was next to a building which didn't burn down (because it was covered by a fire company) wasn't good business and the concept that putting out all fires might be a good idea to reduce payouts was born. It was especially prevalent in the docks and warehouses.

I'm sure I have seen in museums, the plaques the companies used to affix to walls to indicate a building that was covered.

Thanks squoosh.
It makes no sense, as you say.

There's quite a lot of dirt out there about Boris and planning

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014/11/20/channel-four-allegations-reveal-a-darker-side-to-boris-johns

Go to minute 9 on the video to see him tell a counsellor to 'shove it up your'. Petulant git. There is no way he is suited to being PM

In fairness she didn't exactly go down well with Conservatives either:

Iain Dale‏*@IainDale*

With every word this ridiculous Conservative woman on #bbcqt utters, I see votes draining away from the Tories. Honestly.

www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/16/mail-online-story-about-alleged-cause-of-grenfell-fire-prompts-more-than-1100-complaints

A Mail Online article about a man whose faulty fridge allegedly started the Grenfell Tower fire has prompted more than 1,100 complaints to the press watchdog.

The Mail Online article, which has allegedly been toned down overnight, focuses on the actions and behaviour of Behailu Kebede, whose fourth floor flat is thought to be where the blaze started.

The Independent Press Standards Organisation has received more than 1,100 complaints, a number expected to climb, with the overwhelming majority relating to privacy and harassment clauses in the editors’ code. A number of complaints focus on intrusion into grief and shock.

A spokesman for Mail Online said the article was not out to blame Kebede and that its coverage was in line with that of other media.

“In common with several other media outlets MailOnline identified where and how the Grenfell Tower fire started,” said the spokesman. “It attached no blame whatsoever to the occupant of that flat and in fact details how he raised the alarm and alerted his neighbours personally. It didn’t seem to us that naming the resident would be seen as blaming him since we did not see how any reasonable person could possibly hold him responsible.”

The article ranks among the top five most complained-about to Ipso.

The most complained-about article remains the Sun’s front page claim that one in five British Muslims supported people who have gone to Syria to fight for jihadi groups such as Islamic State. Ipso ruled that the article, which attracted about 3,000 complaints, was significantly misleading.

Ipso will assess the complaints and the Mail Online article to decide whether to launch a full investigation into a potential breach of the editors’ code.

“For the record MailOnline believes that, while much is still unclear, the blame for this tragedy lies squarely with those responsible for managing and renovating the tower and the authorities in charge of the policies and safety regulations within which they were operating,” said the Mail Online spokesman. “This has been and remains the focus of MailOnline’s extensive coverage from the outset.”

The Mail Online said that the article had not been toned down in any way since its original publication.

I wonder if this is going to be a society changing event, the anger being displayed at the press, anger at the conservatives, anger at the austerity and anger at the inequality, is this the moment we look back on in say 10, 20 years and think thats when Britain changed, I hope so

Private fire services?
Has the idea of public service become so redundant now that even fire services are seen as an extra that people can do wo?

A spokesman for Mail Online said the article was not out to blame Kebede and that its coverage was in line with that of other media.

The Mail's defence: It was ok cos it was what The Sun did too.

Its that what teenager say to get out of trouble when they know they have behaved like jerks?

I hope so Just. I really do.

There's this gem from Cameron 2012 about his pledge to. kill off the health and safety culture. Not the best words to usexwrt H&S

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-i-will-kill-off-safety-culture-6285238.html?amp

I'm sure I have seen in museums, the plaques the companies used to affix to walls to indicate a building that was covered.

I saw one such example still attached to the building in Chipping Camden recently. We had a guided tour of the town and it was pointed out.

Private fire services?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_department#1600s_and_1700s

Fire departments were again formed by property insurance companies beginning in the 17th century after the Great Fire of London in 1666. The first insurance brigades were established the following year.[4] Others began to realize that a lot of money could be made from this practice, and ten more insurance companies set up in London before 1832: The Alliance, Atlas, Globe, Imperial, London, Protector, Royal Exchange, Sun Union and Westminster.[5] Each company had its own fire mark, a durable plaque that would be affixed to the building exterior. A company's fire brigade would not extinguish a burning building if it did not have the correct fire mark.[6]

Cameron believed 'some accidents are 'inevitable'