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Westministenders: The Election Car Crash

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RedToothBrush · 06/06/2017 15:42

I was thinking about how I could sum up the general election campaign and well. This said it all.

Westministenders: The Election Car Crash
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LurkingHusband · 08/06/2017 09:37

0 UKIP

The only cheering consistency in all polls. Perhaps we can stop giving them the oxygen of publicity now ?

howabout · 08/06/2017 09:38

I'm sticking with the YouGov forecast. I think The Sun et al hit reverse psychology point this week. Smile

Don't understand wanting a small Tory majority - worst of all Worlds as they carry on rudderless and blame all their right wing choices on EU compromise. This is the one option which allows them not to own anything, while accumulating all the Wealth at the expense of everyone else, as per.

LurkingHusband · 08/06/2017 09:39

Just cheered myself up by reading about snap elections in the BBC History Magazine ... generally they've never gone well for the incumbents.

HesterThrale · 08/06/2017 09:39

Some nice photos in this Guardian report:
-Dogs at polling stations!
-Queues at polling stations!

The queues look like largely young people. Encouraging that they're engaging. I do think young people are, and will prove to be, the answer.

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/08/general-election-2017-uk-polling-day-live

RedToothBrush · 08/06/2017 09:40

www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/06/square-pegs-round-hole?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
The winners and losers of Britain’s “first-past-the-post” electoral system
An interactive seats-to-votes calculator

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BiglyBadgers · 08/06/2017 09:42

My dd was born in 2012, I spent my maternity leave sitting in the sun in a park watching the Olympics on big screens. It was lovely and seems a different world to now. Sad

Badders123 · 08/06/2017 09:46

I'm trying to comfort myself with how wrong the polls were last time

It's not working 😔

Zxyzoey31 · 08/06/2017 09:46

my polling station was surrounded by 80 somethings sauntering down and then chatting to their mate the conservative party member outside. It is a safe conservative seat.

I feel a bit sad that in 15 years my children will be facing the consequences of these voters choices but the voters won't.
I also overheard a stereotypical conversation by two twentysomethings yesterday that they only chose on a whim who to vote for when they are in the booth. I thought of all the analysis on here and I felt a bit sad too. To reach them FB advertising probably really works.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2017 09:53

howabout With a big majority or a landslide the Tories would still be rudderless and still blame the EU for all their woes.
Neither would suddenly magic them into being a competent govt

However, with a small majority it may be possible for Parliament / HoL to stop some of their more harmful measures against the vulnerable

I would love a majority of 12, because that's exactly what she started with !

It would show she has achieved absolutely nothing after the most inept Tory campaign I can remember since the 1974 "Who governs Britain ?" GE.

prettybird · 08/06/2017 09:54

Interesting that the forecasts with the highest Conservative majorities also have the highest SNP numbersConfused

I think anything over 40 for the SNP will be a success for the party as the 56 in 2015 was the aberration although it will be spun as a failure by the MSM and the other parties I think 46 is probably a reasonable result. What will be more interesting is who they lose the seats to: will Labour voters have listened to Kezia and voted Conservative in SNP-Conservative marginals Hmm? And will the LibDems manage to win back any seats?

HashiAsLarry · 08/06/2017 09:55

I was 8.5months pregnant, schlepping up to the top of the Olympic stadium, watching the paralympics and feeling some hope at the world I was bringing my child into. How wrong I was Sad

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2017 09:56

12 is still quite enough to manage Brexit if the govt had a clue what they are doing

HesterThrale · 08/06/2017 09:58

I agree Badders and Bigly. Who stole our country?

When people look back on this era in the future, it will be seen as a time when the referendum was the catalyst for extraordinary change; an opportunity for selfish opportunists to work an astonishing sleight-of-hand con trick on an unwitting populace, using social media and tabloid press.

It could go either of two ways. The way that would overturn this regime would involve a lot pain.

squishysquirmy · 08/06/2017 09:59

This is really frivolous, but I am cringing a bit:
If you saw someone dressed head to toe in blue near a polling station, would you assume it was a statement of their voting intention?
I got dressed in a hurry today, and threw the first clean clothes to hand on. Took dd to nursery, which is next to polling station, and passed some other mums I know coming from the opposite direction. Realised I was wearing a blue dress with a blue jacket. Blush
Should I change before I go back to vote?

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2017 10:00

(Times paywall)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-brexit-catastrophe-is-only-just-beginning-kpqnhz7d6

The electorate is going to the polls today in a state of blissful ignorance over the catastrophe that is about to hit the country.

That is because Theresa May has run a dishonest but successful campaign.

She called an election to give herself a mandate for her version of Brexit.

She has contrived to get through it while avoiding the substance of the subject entirely.

Labour hasn’t challenged her because it too wants to avoid the topic.
This has been the Brexit election where Brexit was scarcely discussed.

She has told the electorate nothing new about how she intends to do it,
about how Britons will be poorer and more highly taxed if she keeps to her plan to leave both the single market and the customs union,
or the devastation that will follow if she walks away from the table without a deal.

Instead she has stuck firmly to fantasy and empty phrases.
Brexit means Brexit.
Best deal for Britain.
Strong and stable.

It has been the lobotomisation of democracy.

Her failure to be truthful about what’s imminent means that if she wins, as everyone expects, she won’t have a mandate at all.

A brave and big leader would have tried to win the voters’ backing for the difficulties ahead.

She has avoided that.
Her victory will be based on evasion and soothing visions.

That our future is now entrusted to this rigid, proud leader terrifies me.
Unless she can adapt, in a year’s time a lot more people will be scared.

May has been fiddling but under her government the Brexit fires are starting to burn.

Sunfun11 · 08/06/2017 10:01

"My dd was born in 2012, I spent my maternity leave sitting in the sun in a park watching the Olympics on big screens. It was lovely and seems a different world to now.' Do you remember the opening ceremony celebrating the NHS? I thought then already that this was more a Eulogy than a testimonial Sad. cynic me

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2017 10:01

squishy Just vote now !
Many people live in blue jeans & denims

Sunfun11 · 08/06/2017 10:02

"Realised I was wearing a blue dress with a blue jacket. blush
Should I change before I go back to vote?"

lol, no you'll be fine.

Mumsnet GE comment of the day, surely Love it. Thanks

HashiAsLarry · 08/06/2017 10:04

I am wearing all blue with a splash of yellow. Representative of voting lib dem in a Tory area 😂

prettybird · 08/06/2017 10:05

Actually part of me agrees with Howabout - the Conservatives need a reasonable majority (maybe 40) so that they can't then blame parliament for the clusterfuck that then ensues. Ok, they'll still try to blame the EU for "not being reasonable" - but that's going to happen anyway.

Then they'll get their just desserts next election - even with the boundary changes.

But unfortunately, that also means a lot of pain and suffering and deaths as a result of their policies that hit the vulnerable the most inbetweentimes SadAngry

From my perspective, I believe it would help the case for Scottish independence - but I don't want it done on the back of the mist vulnerable suffering across the UK and the NHS and education being damaged irreparably in England Sad

BiglyBadgers · 08/06/2017 10:09

I went to vote wearing black and brown representative of my bleak and empty soul lieing crushed in the mud of despair.

HashiAsLarry · 08/06/2017 10:10

Grinbigly
We need to get general election fashion trending

RedToothBrush · 08/06/2017 10:12

I've heard that the Tories think the LD will get 3 in Scotland. I'm not sure I'm totally on board with that, but they certainly have a chance in 3 (Orkney and Shetland which they hold plus gains in Edinburgh West and East Dunbartonshire). This actually matches with YouGov's final seat prediction. I think the SNP will definitely lose at least 4 probably 5 to the CONs (Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk, Dumfries & Galloway, Moray, West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine and Perth & North Perthshire). Labour look like they will probably hold on to Edinburgh South. Beyond this I think other changes would largely be a surprise but I think the CONs will probably sneak a few more. I'm hoping they won't.

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GlassOfPort · 08/06/2017 10:14

I am wearing black and white today..maybe I represent the polarisation of the political landscape? Smile

RedToothBrush · 08/06/2017 10:18

Then they'll get their just desserts next election - even with the boundary changes.

And Voter ID?

I don't think we can get shot of.

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