Westministenders: Danger of "accidental" Brexit (whoops !) ?

[BigChocFrenzy]

i.e. Brexit without a deal - NOT intentionally so - due to UK govt incompetence and mutual UK/EU misunderstandings

The govt is proceeding from abysmal ignorance on a Brexit journey which may blunder into disaster.

Prominent Leave campaigner Richard North:

"The UK Government's narrative seems to rest on the belief that the EU will cave in under pressure, and is thus giving every sign that it is prepared to push negotiations to the wire.

If, on the other hand, the EU are determined not to budge, especially as, with their own White Paper on "The Future of Europe" triggering internal discussions unrelated to Brexit, they are not necessarily fully focused on the "British problem".

As a result, we could end up with an "accidental Brexit",
where the UK negotiators overplay their hand, ending up in the UK leaving without an agreement, forcing it to rely on WTO rules.

Most likely, it will take very little to convince the EU that Mrs May is bluffing – as the effect of the WTO option is likely to be disastrous for the UK economy.

We could thus have each side misreading each other, making the accidental Brexit all the more likely."

www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86395

I agree that the retaliation is not aimed at Russia at the minute. Although I do not believe in a Deep State, but the security services obviously see Trump as a Manchurian candidate and act accordingly.

woman I thought you were joking. WTF. What did ordinary Hungarians ever do to deserve this?!

I wonder if this Russian dirty money stuff, will get any traction today.
It's not directly linked to your article Elena but where there's muck there's brass.

@angelaeagle
Appalling complacent blinkered response from the Economic Secretary to today's money laundering allegations in @guardian #Justnotgoodenough

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nick-griffin-bnp-emigrate-hungary-next-six-months-british-national-party-a7638131.html

If I may post this on the new thread as well...
EU summit on Brexit will take place on 29 April
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39337693

@kylegriffin1
FBI's Russian-influence probe is now reportedly looking at far-right news sites—including Breitbart, InfoWars, & RT.

If the FBI can investigate this there, then why the fuck can't MI5/ police/ GSHQ(?) investigate who funded Leave, Banks' mysterious wealth, the data trawling CA stuff and now this money laundering, or am I being to naive?

too naive.

Griffin must be moving there for the money. Someone must have offered him money to cause trouble from there. Like that Jim Dowson website mentioned in the Guardian.
I can see he is happily married, so it can't be a new marriage.

woman Didn't the FT write that Arron Banks was investigated? www.ft.com/content/fbf1b0d8-fd07-11e6-8d8e-a5e3738f9ae4

Actually we are naive.

What looks like a fairly even-handed report on the costs of Brexit to the car-making industry
www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/20/hard-brexit-cost-car-uk-wto-rules

You can download the actual report by PA Consulting here www.paconsulting.com/insights/brexit-and-the-automotive-sector/ but they do ask for details (so I haven't downloaded it personally).

Thanks Patty I will.

US and Eurozone inflation at the same level as the UK despite sterling depreciation.

Nothing to boast about because things are supposed to be better for us under Brexit, not the same.

From that Inde article
"“There's already a sort of nationalist emigre community building up here,” he said. “There's French, there's Italians and Swedes, and Brits as well, so it's only a trickle at present."

"“Hungary is actually doing something about it,” he said. “There's the broad spectrum from building the wall to state help for young Hungarian families to have large families and addressing the Soros problem."
“I have no doubt at all that when the trouble really begins with al-Qaeda and Isis in western Europe, that trickle is going to become a flood.”

They are, in essence, establishing a Neo Nazi community over there with 'Arian' 'Christian' people from across Europe that have a high % of Muslim citizens? What an idiotic troll that Griffin is.

They are, in essence, establishing a Neo Nazi community over there with 'Arian' 'Christian' people from across Europe that have a high % of Muslim citizens? What an idiotic troll that Griffin is.

Why isn't he staying here and throwing his weight behind Brexit? It will be a sick joke if all the Brexshiters scarper, leaving us Remainers to sort out their mess.

I bet Germany is glad it's wage growth has increased +15% (excl Euro appreciation) versus UK since the financial crisis...

Someone on another thread was asking if the rise in inflation was good news for savers at last I think that expecting many people to interpret economic data in context is a bit of an unrealistic dream.

I hope he'll show me a nice big young Hungarian family. All my friends have either one child or none at all.
The country is literally dying out: www.ksh.hu/docs/eng/xstadat/xstadat_annual/i_wnt001b.html
I bet these figures do not even take into account hundreds of thousands of Hungarians emigrating to other EU countries like the UK.

Maybe that's how Griffin is helping Brexit. They'll want to send him back so desperately they'll acquiesce to non FoM 😂

Thanks for the new thread. Choc.

I very much enjoyed this quote from woman's post:

If the UK tries to leave without a deal, the EU could take it to court at the Hague to try to recover the money it thinks is owed, de Volkskrant says.

I hope that Google has translated it accurately - that'll learn 'em.

Home Office accepting EU data retention rules ...

www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/21/home_office_admits_its_preparing_to_accept_eu_ruling_on_surveillance/

Hashi You are probably right.The Brexit secret weapon.