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Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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comfortandjoyce · 17/03/2017 18:31

Gideon is now facing calls to resign as MP. It also caught May's team off guard. But then, he's only a backbencher, so why should she be informed?

Not really a good week for May, I think.

Apart from crushing every Lords amendment, receiving full authority to trigger A50 and negotiate as she pleases, with the Opposition cowering before her, I'm sure the week was just terrible.

Cailleach1 · 17/03/2017 18:32

Forgive me posting stuff you may have read already. But I think the explorations of explanations for what is happening is interesting.
(and you may not have had time to read the papers).

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-scottish-referendum-english-nationalism-damaged-union-for-good-a7635796.html

missmoon · 17/03/2017 18:32

I've tried googling BJ but no details of the scandal. What search terms?!

SwedishEdith · 17/03/2017 18:34

"I dislike Osborne intensely but I think he would be quite competent on an international stage as PM."

Everything I've read about him as a person is that he's very personable. Ed Balls said he (GO) was always friendly in the HoC whereas Cameron didn't give him (EB) eye contact if he passed him.

SwedishEdith · 17/03/2017 18:35

I'll take a PM if there's any going Grin

Cailleach1 · 17/03/2017 18:35

"Apart from crushing every Lords amendment, receiving full authority to trigger A50 and negotiate as she pleases"

In all fairness, the absence of a good working opposition allowed her to do that. She is pushing an open door.

Cailleach1 · 17/03/2017 18:37

Also, the things TM has decided means Brexit is the will of TM, not from any referendum which only contained one single question.

WifeofDarth · 17/03/2017 18:45

This BJ story, is it all the usual stuff or is it in a new direction? If the latter I am unaware and would love some help sniffing it out.

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 18:47

Not really a good week for May, I think yep, sounds about right,
working majority of 17 wouldn't cover losing GO and the "illegals' if that's what the CPS decide they are. And they have a little history with May.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 18:51

Apart from crushing every Lords amendment, receiving full authority to trigger A50 and negotiate as she pleases, with the Opposition cowering before her, I'm sure the week was just terrible.

But she is extremely unlikely to have a supine EU to deal with; she's been lucky that she has been able to cow her own MPs, and has no opposition from Labour. She has been wrong footed by Sturgeon, big time. The expenses scandal is almost certainly nothing to do with her, but it's happening on her watch now, so it's hers to deal with. But by all means crow comfortandjoyce if it gives you some cheap satisfaction.

ElenaGreco123 · 17/03/2017 18:52

I cannot decide if the Express likes BoJo. They are the only ones who reported the case we were talking about. With friends like this, who needs enemies?!

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 18:55

I think Tatton is pretty safe for the Tories - Osborne's majority is almost 19,000. The illegals, however, were all marginals so those could be far tastier.

I wonder how much GO's constituents saw of him when he was chancellor? I expect he has several local people working on constituency matters and so, in his mind, working full-time at the Treasury or working "part-time" at the Standard doesn't really make much odds.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 18:56

working majority of 17 wouldn't cover losing GO and the "illegals' if that's what the CPS decide they are. And they have a little history with May.

If the MPs in question are forced to stand down, and various opposition parties win the seats, it could get interesting, and her majority could go. Except her working majority isn't 17 at present, it's that and the Labour party votes.

I feel it's a bit rough for the MPs concerned - it doesn't sound as though they are the main perpetrators of the fraud.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 18:58

I think Tatton is pretty safe for the Tories - Osborne's majority is almost 19,000.

It ought to be, but a big push from the Lib Dems could swing it their way. The Tories managed to mislay 19,000 votes in Witney and more in Richmond Park.

Tanith · 17/03/2017 18:59

I'm not convinced of George Osborne's competence, to be honest. People are attacking Philip Hammond's enforced U Turn, but I seem to remember quite a bit of back-tracking from GO.

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 19:00

WifeofDarth Honestly I don't know, just same old, same old is all I've seen in the papers:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3510868/My-amiti-amoureuse-Boris-Tory-darling-s-female-friend-breaks-silence-four-year-affair.html

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/he-s-fathered-a-love-child-and-had-three-affairs-but-the-british-public-still-loves-boris-johnson-8636709.html

www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1181649/boris-wife-in-sex-smear-poisonous-slurs-being-spread-about-brexiteers-spouse-in-attempt-to-bring-down-vote-leave-campaign/

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/26/boris-johnson-mendacious-eu-referendum-next-prime-minister

Maybe BJ's secretly kind, empties the dishwasher every night and insists on his female partner having funded thinking and creative time. Perhaps he really listens to what women think. Or maybe he secretly didn't think rape survivors should have to prove they'd been attacked to get benefits, and is campaigning for repeal.

All crimes in UKIP land Grin

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 19:02

People are attacking Philip Hammond's enforced U Turn, but I seem to remember quite a bit of back-tracking from GO.

The difference being of course, that Osborne and Cameron were joined at the hip, so all though Osborne had to backtrack he wasn't hung out to dry by his PM. Whereas Hammond, who seems about the only sensible one in Cabinet, is being shafted by his PM.

PattyPenguin · 17/03/2017 19:07

If anyone needs a laugh, Marina Hyde is on form.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/17/george-osborne-editor-substance-london-evening-standard

"Yes, he’s one of the Richmond Lebedevs – not the Shropshire ones."

I was laughing out loud on the bus on the way home.

ElenaGreco123 · 17/03/2017 19:17

Patty Grin

Bolshybookworm · 17/03/2017 19:21

That Marina Hyde article is brilliant.

ElenaGreco123 · 17/03/2017 19:27

From Marina:
Announcing the appointment, the Evening Standard’s preposterous proprietor, Evgeny Lebedev, declared: “I am proud to have an editor of such substance.” What substance? Is it crystal meth?

When does she have the time and how does she have the energy with all her small children?!
I have noticed that her restraining order from Elton must have expired, because he appears in every article again.

TatianaLarina · 17/03/2017 19:33

That BJ found one woman who'd have sex with him is extraordinary.

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 19:35

Money is supposed to be a great aphrodisiac I wouldn't know

WifeofDarth · 17/03/2017 19:38

Thanks woman
I have a darker story that isn't on that list. One day i'll tell you all when we're having a nice whisky in a cosy pub. Meanwhile it is reassuring to know that it's all holding him off the top job .

ElenaGreco123 · 17/03/2017 19:40

When I was pregnant with DS, mommies on our antenatal thread found BoJo irresistable.

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