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Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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Motheroffourdragons · 17/03/2017 15:16

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Peregrina · 17/03/2017 15:20

Mrs May is a spiteful cow.

Apropos of nothing, but I feel better for saying that.

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 15:23

I bet she was a prefect at school..
One of the ones who took it really seriously!

She has that look - A mix of constipated and superior

Motheroffourdragons · 17/03/2017 15:35

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comfortandjoyce · 17/03/2017 15:40

Mrs May is a spiteful cow

By not allowing a "once in a generation" referendum to happen again after just a few years? What spite!

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 15:42

So was I

I just didnt take it seriously and used my power for good 😀👍

HashiAsLarry · 17/03/2017 15:46

@hollyroodliam
If I was Nicola Sturgeon I'd reject the claim we don't know what indy would mean with a clever phrase like 'independence means independence'

@callum_mccaig
Just imagine Brussels had told the UK that they are not allowed to have a referendum. That's the difference between Scotland's 'two Unions.'

The latter has probably been done before but I feel like it needs repeating everyday.

Motheroffourdragons · 17/03/2017 15:52

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Motheroffourdragons · 17/03/2017 15:58

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HashiAsLarry · 17/03/2017 16:15

Because I can't go a day without Ian Dunt Grin

The treatment of Hammond is similar and doesn't even make sense on its own terms. May's response to the crisis allows for only three possibilities: She is either irrelevant or weak or cruel. If Hammond had not shown her the main policy in the Budget before delivering it, she is irrelevant. If he had and she objected but he delivered it anyway, she is weak. If he had and she backed him and then turned against him once the backlash started, she is cruel.

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 16:31

Surely Hammond is writing his resignation letter?

Kaija · 17/03/2017 16:33

Let's hope it's a full and frank one.

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 16:39

Hmm, angry chancellors have a habit of getting rid of prime ministers (Geoffrey Howe and Gordon Brown spring to mind for starters).

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 16:44

By not allowing a "once in a generation" referendum to happen again after just a few years? What spite!

I was actually thinking of her behaviour at the Home Office, booting out students who were here perfectly legitimately, but that didn't fit in with her targets on immigration. That showed real spite.

BTW I think she is both weak and cruel, but doesn't realise it.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 16:49

May certainly knows how to make enemies.
Let's have a count:
Gove,
Morgan,
Osborne,
Heseltine,
Hammond - that's just in her own party.
Then we have
Sturgeon
Angus Robertson.....

I wonder which of her chums will ride to her rescue if the knives are sharpened? I don't think Johnson, Fox or Davis could be relied upon.

lalalonglegs · 17/03/2017 16:54

I can see Johnson being the one to wield the knife (with the usual Golly Goshing! and How did I end up holding this big, blood-covered knife-type pantomine).

Not enemies of the first order, perhaps but useful to bring up the rear (or send first over the top) - Nicki Morgan, Anna Soubry and Ken Clarke.

Her greatest ally and strategist, Nick Timothy could soon be speaking to the Met about some unexplained hotel bills.

Peregrina · 17/03/2017 17:01

Funnily enough, I don't think Clarke will be a backstabber. I think he's stuck to his principles and said his piece and that's enough for him.

Johnson as the knife wielder - possibly, but that might not play well if he wants to be PM himself.

I like Ian Dunt's comment
For now, May emerges knocked back but still retaining her relationship with the right-wing press. She sells herself as the sturdy prime minister, but at the first sign of trouble from them, she folds like a deck chair.
More like a deckchair collapsing.

woman12345 · 17/03/2017 17:05

Hasn't Bojo got some lurking scandal that upended the last attempt at leadership?

I agree losing Timothy will not be a good thing for May, lala. Apparently Hammond doesn't like him.

Sturgeon playing on May's intransigence/rudeness/poor game planning;
"I am up for continued discussion, but people will recognise in any walk of life - not just in politics - you can't have discussion and reach compromise with people who are not prepared to enter into discussion and are not prepared to countenance compromise and that so far has been my experience of the PM."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39299305

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 17:07

Generally in Tory coups the person wielding the knife will not be the person elevated, and we often see a "surprise" candidate take all. After all, if we look back at how May herself got the job, she was hardly a shoe-in on June 24.

Howe fired the starting gun on Thatcher, but no-one - absolutely no-one - foresaw John Major would be the winner. Except perhaps John Major. Those that remember it, he suddenly disappeared from all discussion just before the final vote with a toothache. Or is that "toothache" ?

PoundlandUK · 17/03/2017 17:08

I can see GO using his new ES platform to undermine TM. Time is on his side, and so is the Financial Services industry and so is London (mostly). BJ's name is muddy in London these days. GO wants to be PM and he's young enough to play a long game. He cares about balancing the books. He has been publicly snubbed by TM and screwed over by BJ...he will never defect to Team Brexit. Yes I know he's a big shitty let-down, but maybe, just maybe, he can turn this around. He will be in the epicentre of chaos and destruction when this hits the centre of London. And he will be one of very few Tories with cleanish hands. Faced with the Corbyn alternative, I can see him magnetizing considerable support.

whatwouldrondo · 17/03/2017 17:09

Speaking of more innocent times when we could take some things for granted "

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/16/why-is-the-trump-presidency-such-a-rolling-disaster/?utm_term=.15c3fd0a4d0f

"A disastrous first legislative priority. Republicans may have had no choice but to pursue the repeal of the ACA right off the bat, but they could hardly have gone about it in a less competent way. After seven years of attacking the law, they still hadn’t settled on their alternative, leading to a hastily written plan that not only would create a health-care catastrophe if implemented but also managed to win the displeasure of their members in both the Senate (for being too harsh) and the House (for not being harsh enough)"

LurkingHusband · 17/03/2017 17:09

Hasn't Bojo got some lurking scandal that upended the last attempt at leadership?

I think brand BoJo was holed below the waterline after he so obviously backed the side of cynicism, rather than principle.

It's not the cynicism over principle that excludes him. Just it was obvious Grin.

Anyway, I don't think we want another American PM.

PoundlandUK · 17/03/2017 17:12

Hasn't Bojo got some lurking scandal that upended the last attempt at leadership?

I remember what you're talking about. I have a feeling it's strictly verboten to talk about on social media but will try to find a link.

Basically, you live by the press, you die by the press Smile

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 17:17

I can totally see Osborne crawling out of the woodwork when TM goes
Which means Gove and BJ will be on the outside looking in

Badders123 · 17/03/2017 17:17

Ooooohhhh
What?
What?