A Quiet sad corner

[smashedinductionhob]

That's all. Pop over and sit down quietly if you like.

Sips tea, leans shoulder gently towards neighbour.

Yes to childlike innocence. I liked believing that the people who I lived amongst were tolerant, broad-minded, accepting types, and am very sad to find that this is not the case.

Morning,

Could a refugee from Gransnet just pop in for a few minutes peace away from the idiot la lal landers? They're doing my head in...

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1235136-Open-Britain-Hard-Brexit

I won't bother anyone, don't even need a cup of tea. Just need somewhere to sob, quietly..

P.S No need to read the thread, really. You'll have heard it all before..

"Never Such Innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word - the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages,
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again."

mind you

Larkin was a sod

It is important isn't it?

The loss of innocence?

It's the scene on the ship in Brideshead where she tells him she can't marry him.

It's the Impasse. The Impasse.

"You see, it's an impasse, God, an impasse"

Also Milton writing Paradise Lost, all about his lost dream of the Republic.

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Smashed - who were they? Don't understand this sentence.

It's the scene on the ship in Brideshead where she tells him she can't marry him
If you are referring to Charles Ryder and Julia, they weren't on a ship. She told him she couldn't marry him after her father had died at Brideshead.

I may be drinking funny tea.....

Stroopwafel with your tea anyone? Well done Netherlands! Thank goodness that you guys (and previously Austria) are showing a way forward in the rejection of far right populism and anti EU rhetoric. France - make it a hatrick of sensible voting next please.

Could I put in an order for a Dutch pancake please?

Wow, I thought I'd managed to stuff/ ignore all these feelings. After reading this thread I'm on my way to work in tears, dammit.

I'm so sad and angry. Other than that I'm just tired.

I've joined the Lib Dems.

I want to go on the march, but I'd rather not go alone. Does anyone need a marching buddy?

brought music to drown in our sorrows

March? Where? can I shuffle along at the back, sipping from a Thermos and nibbling digestives?

As it's st Patrick's day tomorrow I shall offer up the pogues for your enjoyment x

Can I join? I have teenagers who will be old enough to vote just in time to miss all the important votes, they are very angry about that.

For those who don't know about the march, here is the poster.

If you go to the website given, under the tab More, you will find a link to Travel Hub, which lists places and organisations which are sending a coach.

The Oxford coach is full BTW, but if you put your name on the waiting list they may be able to put on another.

So I'm starting to wonder... why are we feeling the loss? It's practical and immediate but it's also a loss of those values we've been articulating.

And I'm wondering, how do we set out a vision of those European values that endure whatever nonsense happens in the next decade?

I mean thinking ten years ahead. Two steps ahead of the people who are too busy arguing to think.

why are we feeling the loss because we've been so lucky for so long.
You don't miss your water till your well runs dry. But we just have to get digging another one, and have nice tea breaks, listening to the Pogues.

Thinking years ahead...
My concern is what happens next after the negative effects of Brexit are felt. It's impossible to predict, but I worry that economic problems will push people further to the rights, and make them more susceptible to nationalistic, inward looking populism.
Many leave voters will never believe, no matter what happens, that they were wrong to vote for Brexit. In fact the more evidence that they made a mistake, the more they will dig their heels in. Who will be blamed for the country's problems then? Probably immigrants and minorities.

Op please answer my question about Evelyn Waugh and Graham Greene.

Evelyn Waugh and Graham Greene were very well known British writers in the early 20th Century. An internet search will tell you all you need to need to know about them and more.

Dapple :)

would it be terribly naughty if we started a new thread in the same topic to talk about Waugh and Greene?

What do you say?

ok maybe a bit too naughty to mess with people's heads so much....

so what I meant was....

..... oh I can't do this.... I will PM you x

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Tanith I know who they were. I was asking the op what she meant by this slightly ambiguous sentence and she has sent me a PM. However, if you are able to throw further light on what the op meant then please go ahead.