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surferjet · 31/01/2017 20:29

So .....how are we all this evening?
Wine

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boredofbrexit · 03/02/2017 15:39

well, apart from boring its just a waste of screenspace to keep going on about the regulations, what was, was, and what will be, will be. We will keep what we want and lose what we dont and regulate - ourselves - where neccessary. Whatever they were, they are almost history.

JamieXeed74 · 03/02/2017 15:52

I'd rather get my chicken via a supply chain that works on prevention being better than cure? Your avoiding the point that your so called prevention doesn't work and most chicken in the UK/EU is contaminated as well. So what difference is it which chicken you eat? A difference is only a difference if it makes a difference. And your not saying if you eat UK salads etc which are washed in chlorinated water? And your not addressing the TTIP issue that would have had ALL the EU eating American food. And your not addressing why having the free will to eat, or not, American meat should not be something a grown adult is allowed to decide for themselves.

I have known three small farmers who claim that they have to spend 2-3 hours a day, every day, collating data to fill in forms, and filling in forms to confirm that they are conforming to EU standards in relation to animal welfare, food standards etc. Apparently the EU Nitrates Directive is particularly onerous, but apparently there are hundreds. None of them sell their goods into the EU Now you can argue that red tape is needed but its the amount of red tape that needs to be cut.

InfiniteSheldon · 03/02/2017 16:14

C'mon now Bear change the tune you've been answered a myriad of times. Ultimately the something that the EU has forced upon you that you can now change is the supranational level of government that is the EU that we didn't vote for and have now categorically stated we don't want and have already changed. I didn't want an EU army, that's gone no chance now so another change, stopping the EU Empire building (as in growing corporation behaviour NOT military landmass grab) is another fabulous result but answering your boringly repetitive questions Bear is pointless you aren't listening, don't want to listen just want to wail as you melt in snowflakey unimportance in the ever decreasing Remoaner corner. Chuck in the towel mate it's over and you lost, reduced to berating us on mumsnet have a NZ Wine and Google New Zealand and the fabulous financial and trading results of ending their subsidy driven farming crisis it will give you hope.

Corcory · 03/02/2017 16:21

Tuckers - was the one that brought up the 'taxi driver' hours and it wasn't taxi drivers it was a mini bus driver I knew. Where they use the mini bus for school pick up and drop offs and then as a taxi service at the weekends but couldn't do it because of the working hours.

TuckersBadLuck · 03/02/2017 16:33

Which is as it should be. Unless you also believe that lorry and bus drivers should be able to work 7 days a week if they feel like it?

InformalRoman · 03/02/2017 17:06

I'm not avoiding any points on campylobacter and chickens - Europe focuses on controlling pathogens such as campylobacter on the farm, rather than controlling it later in the chain, as in the US. Chlorine washing only addresses surface contamination and not contamination within the meat, which is what the European approach is aiming to address.

Yes, some UK chicken at the point of sale is still contaminated with campylobacter - but then so is some US chicken, so chlorine washing doesn't work either. Not a lot of difference in the risk - just one chicken hasn't been washed in chemicals.

And you do realise that the legislation like the Nitrates Directive is aimed at preventing surface water and groundwater pollution, given that these are our drinking water sources? Nitrate pollution has increased massively since WWI due to agricultural practices, and will continue to be an issue in groundwater for decades to come given how slowly nitrates migrate from the unsaturated to the saturated zone. So even though the use of nitrates has been controlled since 1991 it will be many years before peak levels are reached - hence don't expect controls to be rolled back just because we're leaving the EU.

Why does it matter that those farms aren't selling into the EU? In the case of nitrates those farms impact on public water supplies in exactly the same way as farms that do export to the EU.

And:
No, I don't buy pre-washed salad.
Yes, I am selective about which meat I buy. If the US ends up importing chicken to the UK I wouldn't buy it, but I expect millions would, especially if it was cheaper than UK produced meat. That would be their choice.

Bearbehind · 03/02/2017 17:25

Even that doesn't exist. The restricted hours are for drivers of large passenger vehicles - large minibuses and buses.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. It was to do this a mini bus driver who wanted to taxi as well IIRC

Bearbehind · 03/02/2017 17:27

Sorry, I responded to tuckers post then read the comments about it after

CeciledeVolanges · 03/02/2017 17:30

Rorty, you should try being a Remain poster in here - quite difficult even to engage people in a discussion.

By the way, it's "mes braves" not "mon braves"

Bearbehind · 03/02/2017 17:30

infinite yet again you waffle about nothing but 'big picture' nonsense that isn't even based on reality.

If you can't give any day to day examples that's fine, but stop trying to hide the fact by being rude.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 03/02/2017 17:38

When one of my kids go on a school trip, I'm really reassured to know they aren't being driven by someone who's been driving for hours and hours before!

Banana woman ... it would be funny if it weren't so tragic and so fucking infuriating.

surferjet · 03/02/2017 17:38

Evening all - pouring with rain out there.
Wine all round to warm us up.

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SemiPermanent · 03/02/2017 17:42

By the way, it's "mes braves" not "mon braves"

Oh, the humanity!

Why on earth are you deploying pedantry on this thread??!!
In the interests of fairness & parity go onto the WM threads & pull them up on their shit spelling!!!

It's fucking LOSE
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LOSE
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I am a v triggered ❄️ today.....

InfiniteSheldon · 03/02/2017 17:46

Thank you for replying Bear but you still haven't answered my earlier question 're lottery numbers please do share you absolute and unquestionable future knowledge

surferjet · 03/02/2017 17:48

No no - it's only leave voters who should know exactly what's going to happen for the next 100 years.

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Badders123 · 03/02/2017 18:08

Semi....never mind
At least you are not a "kept woman"
Lazy stereotypes abound it seems!!

Badders123 · 03/02/2017 18:09

Not going well for Teresa the appeaser is it?
Grin
Or should that be Teresa the malteeser?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 03/02/2017 18:10

Do you understand the difference between mystic Meg and an economic probability?

Badders123 · 03/02/2017 18:11

That QT lady is pure comedy gold!
That sound bite is going to come back to haunt her....

Badders123 · 03/02/2017 18:11

Leavers don't care about economic probability...they are all happy to be poorer for the "greater good"

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 03/02/2017 18:12

Europe focuses on controlling pathogens such as campylobacter on the farm

And,....its still in the EU food chain, I don't get the point?

Semi its the way of some posters I am afraid. If its Leave - ignore evade - dismiss, pull up on, patronize etc.

Badders123 · 03/02/2017 18:12

I'm feeling rather hysterically entertained by all this today....
Confused

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 03/02/2017 18:13

What is economic probability by the way?

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 03/02/2017 18:18

By the way I am happy to be pulled on up repeated spelling or grammar issues if anyone notices! Maximize my time on here Grin I was never taught Sad

surferjet · 03/02/2017 18:24

Semi - Brexit and DT have shown us what some lefties are really like - sneering, arrogant, patronising, pompous, hysterical, & boring. They don't care about anyone but themselves & their politically correct causes. They're just a load of charlatans.

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