March in March

[Niamer]

Remainers, regretters and non-voters, please come!

www.uniteforeurope.org

Everyone I spoke to at the London Women's march apart from a man marching under the flag of Left Unity were going to attend the march in March

As I understand it is being organised as a collaboration between different pro-remain groups such as the 48% and 16 million rising. I know there is a man on the 48% group who has been active in its organisation and has previously done things such as arrange meetings with pro-remain politicians such as Baroness Wheatcroft.

That's fantastic news, whatwouldrondo. I was thinking when I saw the size of the women's March, surely most of them must be on our side, and surely if they'll turn out for something happening on the other side of the Atlantic, they'll turn out for Europe.

I'll be there, with Vote for Europe. Train tickets purchased, flags on order. Show that bloody women that she does not have my support and she does not speak for me. And the rest of the fucking *s that I will not fucking shut up and get over it. Not now, not ever.

STIDW, there are several organisations working on it including the 48%, Votes for Europe and the European Movement. I think that several MPs and members of the House of Lords are supportive and will hopefully attend. I'm pretty sure it was Baroness Wheatcroft's suggestion in the first place.

Bumping the thread again to say that I will be coming back for the march (from Amsterdam obviously) with my 2.5 year old son. TM does not speak for me and I will not stand by and watch the UK go down the pan.

TM doesn't speak for any one individual personally, but she does speak for the country. She is our leader. She speaks, and acts on all our behalf on the wishes of the majority who put her in power. I struggle to see what marching on an already voted on subject will achieve? You 'won't stand by and watch' while democracy is enacted!? Who do some of you think you are!?

We'll all be going here. It'll be DHs second ever demo. It just goes to show how much this sucks!

You 'won't stand by and watch' while democracy is enacted!? Who do some of you think you are!?

I am perfectly entitled to demonstrate peacefully.

I do not believe it is a democracy when adults affected by a vote are not allowed to vote.
Who do I think I am ? Well I am ( no think about it) a proud British European and a believer in working closely with our neighbours to ensure peace. First and foremost I am mother who will fight for the best outcome of this omnishambles for the sake of my children. They have been badly let down by the system.

Niamer well said. You speak for me too.

Can I just ask, without attacks if possible, as I am simply curious .

How many times have you marched for things like Bedroom Tax, Sanctions against the unemployed, cuts to the things like employability etc etc . Or is it only Europe you would and do march for ?

Genuine question .

Rachelragged - none. Was asleep until 24 June I am quite ashamed to say. My days of political apathy are over. Better to start late than never though I hope.

I can answer your question RachelRagged.

I first marched against changes in what was then Family Allowance, which preceded Child Benefits.
I then went on anti-apartheid demos.
I protested against Cruise missiles at Greenham Common.
I then protested about cuts in education and so far I have only got as far as the early 90s.

In short, I have lost count of the number of protests I have been on, some effective, some not.

In addition to regularly supporting charities, in various ways, both fund raising and by practical hands on support.

What have you done?

I'm seriously considering coming over from France to attend.

Like Peregrina I was a young adult during the Thatcher years. We demonstrated against cruise missiles and the poll tax and apartheid, and in favour of gay and women's rights. Although it might have felt futile at the time, we were mostly on the right side of history.

Anti Poll Tax
Anti Bedroom Tax
Anti Austerity
Few Anonymous Million Mask Marches
No War on Iran (at the American Embassy)
Hands off Syria
I volunteer at a charity shop two times a week

Thanks for your answers and Yes Niamer , never too late

Peregrina

Do you find, as I do mostly now, that it is like a losing battle ? All the ones I have been on , you either end up kettled somewhere , threatened with arrest so end up going to the march , marching and going home again (myself included)

Oh I forgot one .

Love and Hugs not Bombs and tears ,, or similar September 11th 2011

You 'won't stand by and watch' while democracy is enacted!? Who do some of you think you are!?

TM has a mandate for Brexit, but not any type that she pleases.

As for the rest, we live in a not perfect democracy (for now), so people are free to march about what they please.

I have had mixed results, so am hopeful that any more marches won't be a losing battle. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to show that it was worthwhile.

She is our leader.

Just change the language to German, and see how it sounds. She hasn't herself won an election, so such mandate as she has is in the Conservative Manifesto, which a Hard Brexit most definitely was not. I am disappointed that more Tory voters don't appear to be speaking out - for many they must be feeling a deep sense of betrayal.

Rorty - that made me pmsl.

mandate as she has is in the Conservative Manifesto,

And the manifesto said that a deal would be negotiated with the EU and then it would be put to the country in a referrendum. Therefore she has no mandate and the referendum was held in an arsse about backwards way.

Page 75 of the offending article - direct quote

"We will negotiate a new settlement for Britain in the EU. And then
we will ask the British people whether they want to stay in on this basis, or leave"

"She speaks, and acts on all our behalf on the wishes of the majority who put her in power. "

No-one "put her in power." The other candidates all bottled it and ran away.

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To be fair to Gove, he got eliminated and then Leasdom ran away. Now if he'd been allowed to go back on the ballot........

Well, I suspect he would have made a mess if he'd won, although I thought he was making a better job of being Justice Secretary (whatever the title was).

Nobody votes for prime minister. We vote for a party, and they chose the leader. TM is the leader of our elected party. She has been given a mandate to act on our behalf by the very fact she is leader of the elected party. We didn't vote on soft, medium, or hard boiled brexit, so she gets to decide. Davis Cameron offered an 'in out' choice, the U.K. Said yes by voting him in, knowing it was an 'in out' question. Nobody was under the impression that we then got to decide what type.

I don't agree. We don't even vote for a party - we vote for individual MPs, and the one winning the most seats is invited to form a Government. Or in 2010 and earlier cases, where there is no overall winner, the losing PM is first offered the chance of forming a Government.

Until Theresa May wins her own mandate, that of the party which formed the Government stands.

It was, as was made clear, and ADVISORY Referendum.We expect Parliament to take note of this but to do their duty and act in accordance with what they perceive is the good of the country, and then represent their constituents.

How would you be arguing now, if Remain had won, and the winner had said 'Right, that now gives me a mandate to join the Euro and become part of Schengen?