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I did not question the legitimacy of a majority vote at any time.

Meeeeeeriam Clegg - booooong
(Missed little Nicky hiding in her Birkin)
Pun intended

There is no "will of the people". People do not will the same things.

If you want to talk about the will of the 25%/37%/52% that's fine.

It is not "the people".

Which part of that does not question the legitimacy of the majority vote as expressing the will of the people.

It doesn't have to be "the will of the people" to be legitimate.

I think Remainers must accept that May certainly has the moral authority to exercise the Royal Prerogative. Until this week she also had the legal authority.

If you want to justify acting outside moral authority, I've got a plentiful supply of Nytol to help you sleep at night.

I'm afraid it does.

Until this week she also had the legal authority.

Are you saying that the law was changed this week?

I mean we can but my floor wants washing.

The law has been interpreted in a particular way. That interpretation could change tomorrow or, let's say, December 4th.

Do you want to talk about North Korea again if government without the will of the people has legitimacy?

"Will of the people" is a slogan generally used to justify a particular course of action and protect it from scrutiny, as here.

Nobody has voted for the terms of Brexit. We have no idea what the majority want beyond "leaving".

Oh stop wriggling kaija

Imagine saying one of the great tenets of political philosophy is just a slogan. The rulers are our servants: we are their sovereigns.

Leaving generally means not staying. Staying generally means paying dues and accepting rules. Both these things are incompatible. Go figure.

Wriggling? I am merely restating what I have said too many times already. It is very tedious, but as you persist in wilfully misrepresenting my comments I feel obliged to carry on for now.

That was to Special K

I'm afraid it is very much a slogan in its current usage.

You just don't like it because it's a deeply uncomfortable truth. That's why you dismiss it. I haven't misrepresented a single thing: you condemned your argument with your own words

I haven't. You just seem to have a surprisingly poor grasp of how a representative democracy works. Either that or you understand it and reject it. For what?

User I like it. Now that is a handy slogan.

Compared to your grasp I should be an Oxbridge PPE professor !

Oh dear.

The law has been interpreted in a particular way. That interpretation could change tomorrow or, let's say, December 4th

This ^, this is law isn't it - whichever brains determine what means what at that time.

Even if you think 'the will of the people' is anything other than a slogan, the fact remains that at best the 'will' is simply to leave the EU.

The lack of understanding about what this entails has been demonstrated time and time again, none more so than this week when some people thought the ruling meant Brexit was over.

There is no mandate for how we leave which is why it must be debated.

Those who's priority is immigration just happened to have been happy with that going unchallenged and are now angry because they know it won't now be allowed to be so.

I think Remainers must accept that May certainly has the moral authority to exercise the Royal Prerogative

She has the moral authority to pursue Brexit by any lawful means, which may or may not include the Royal Prerogative.

Until this week she also had the legal authority.

Until this week she thought she had legal authority.