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The Brexit Arms goes forth! All welcome. Leavers, Remainers, Couldn't give a Tossers, & openly gay athletes.

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surferjet · 04/11/2016 22:41

Welcome Wine

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twofingerstoGideon · 07/11/2016 18:27

Especially if the spoilt ballot says something worthwhile. All such ballots have to be read out at count.

That's interesting, Red. So when you say 'read out', do you mean they read out whatever someone might have written (eg "you're all a bunch of wankers"), or do you just mean they have to say 'Forty spoilt ballot papers.' Really hoping it's the former Grin

I must say, I've been tempted once or twice. It's a bugger living in a safe seat. You do feel your vote is wasted.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2016 18:32

Former.

I know at our local elections there was a particularly personal and nasty one against a candidate. Still had to be read out...

Figmentofmyimagination · 07/11/2016 18:36

It is naive to imagine that post brexit, employers will stop treating low paid workers shoddily - moving them around to line their pockets etc. It's all smoke and mirrors. To take just one example, May's much trumpeted plan to restrict executive pay to a multiple of the average wage. If this becomes law, organisations with a large number of low paid workers eg retail, hospitality, etc will simply transfer the employment contracts of the lowest paid workers into a different legal entity - maybe even outsourcing them to a third party - initial, serco, Mitie etc so that they can pay their executives whatever they want, as they no longer share the same employer. And hey presto all these workers will actually be more insecure and worse off, not better.

It is always the same. The structural inequality in our labour market has nothing to do with importing 'cheap migrant labour'. Rather it has to do with determined government efforts via eg anti trade union laws, employment tribunal fees etc etc to crap on workers and facilitate insecure ('flexible') employment arrangements ever since 1979. In this, they have been aided by a right wing press that has persuaded people to 'blame the immigrant'. It's too late now, and no amount of 'citizens of nowhere', 'hardworking families' etc bollocks can change it. At least we are now a nation of entrepreneurs, looking on the bright side.

twofingerstoGideon · 07/11/2016 18:39

Ooh, Red. I feel a spoilt paper coming on next time around and will give full rein to my creativity!

AccioMerlot · 07/11/2016 18:39

At a general election count the candidate's representatives can look at the spoiled ballots (to check if they could be interpreted as valid votes)

Not sure what happened with spoiled votes at the referendum (although it childishly entertains me to think of a truck-load of cock drawings being delivered to David Cameron's doorstep)

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 18:46

Did anyone see that tweet about the government abandoning the Supreme Court challenge

Bloody hell

autumnintheair · 07/11/2016 18:46

It is always the same. The structural inequality in our labour market has nothing to do with importing 'cheap migrant labour

How can it be always the same, we have had a wave of immigration never seen before Hmm

No one cares about the negatives of Schenegen either. They just focus on the good bits that benefits themselves.

surferjet · 07/11/2016 18:46

Evening all Smile
Jeez it's freezing out there so drinks on the house tonight WineWineWineWine

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WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 18:48

Marvellous! Yes bitter. About to make a huge chilli. Busy day all?

autumnintheair · 07/11/2016 18:49

Bonjour Surfer, it is a little nippy.

autumnintheair · 07/11/2016 18:50

Painful day, sick toddler Sad but on the mend. Trying to do something with gnocci, my polish sil made me some once but I cant remember what you eat with it. Smile Chilli sounds perfect, my tribe wouldn't touch it, too spicey.

surferjet · 07/11/2016 18:52

Very busy < working >
but off tomorrow so yay!

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twofingerstoGideon · 07/11/2016 18:53

We've had 'massive waves of immigration' in the past (Windrush in the late 40s, fromn the Punjab in the 1960s etc). Did that bring 'structural inequality' in employment? As far as I'm aware, zero hours contracts and massive CEO bonuses are a relatively recent phenomenon.

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 18:59

Your poor toddler not nice being sick when it's freezing

Have had a super busy day Wink

Hurrah for surfs day off

vulpeculaveritas · 07/11/2016 18:59

zero hours contracts are illegal in several EU countries too, its yet another thing that we have control over already that govts of either hue have failed to address.

Oh autumn, a sick toddler is not fun. :(

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 19:01

Wore my new boots today - very happy

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 19:02

David Davis seemed very matter of fact. That's reassuring I think.

autumnintheair · 07/11/2016 19:11

She is on the mend thankfully, will be firing off all cylinders tomorrow Shock Lovely wearing new boots Smile

Glanced at some headlines and May seems matter of fact too.

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 19:13

I know they're so 'steady as she goes'

WinchesterWoman · 07/11/2016 19:15

Ps on the chilli I started mild and increased the dosage

Petronius16 · 07/11/2016 19:20

Sorry to hear that autumn. Never been successful with gnocchi. Try tomato sauce, cheese sauce and crispy bacon, mushrooms and garlic, google goes well.

time4chocolate · 07/11/2016 19:47

Evening all, thanks for the drink Surfer it's much needed after a mad busy day. All a bit quieter today (politically speaking). However, the same can't be said across the pond!! Does anyone want to hazard a guess on what they think the result will be come Wednesday morning? I'm going to play devils advocate because I'm not getting a gut feeling in either direction at the moment. I don't want to derail just quick straw poll really.

babybarrister · 07/11/2016 19:49

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surferjet · 07/11/2016 20:00

Hi time4 Smile
Yes the US elections have pushed Brexit into the background a bit today, I'll be up all night tomorrow watching it & predict a win for Clinton. But it's not a question of which candidate you like, it's a question of which candidate you hate the least. Feel sorry for Americans, our Brexit problems seem quite small compared to what's happening over there.

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time4chocolate · 07/11/2016 20:47

Couldn't agree more Surfer - I will be aiming to go the distance (note to myself to remember to check coffee and snack supplies Wink.)

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