Xenophobia: Brexit official discourse

[jaws5]

Hearing one minister after another at the Tory conference today has made me feel ill: So foreign doctors are welcome UNTIL more British doctors have been trained in a hurry, foreigners will be treated as second class citizens when applying for a job, and EU nationals are one of the "main cards" in Brexit negotiations. I cannot imagine any other country in the world where the official discourse of the governing party would include these statements without it being condemned as xenophobic. Shame on them.

[ScaredFuture99]

Not the first time though. They've done the same thing before in North Yorkshire after the population used every single avenue to stop them.
Yep fracking right in the middle of a National Park....

I'm pretty sure throough that it didn't make the national headlines (and it was DC decision that time)

[RedToothBrush]

What is interesting is how articles about unaccompanied children in Calais who are eligible to come to the UK are being prevent are being reported today:

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-child-migrants-stuck-calais-jungle-british-government-bureaucracy-red-cross-a7352551.html
I note the wording of the headline
British government bureaucracy is forcing children to stay in the Calais Jungle, charity says

It is not the only news outlet reporting it in this way. I am fairly sure in the past that it would be reported as simply government bureaucracy or bureaucracy. Addition of the word British explicitly is very deliberate.

[Corcory]

See, I don't agree with everything the tory government does and I certainly disagree with the fracking thing. I also disagree with the TM's Grammar school ideas but then I'm in Scotland so it doesn't affect my children.

[GreenandWhite]

"Addition of the word British explicitly is very deliberate."
To what effect or purpose red?

[Peregrina]

The use of the word British is deliberate making it clear that children who are entitled to asylum in the UK, having family here, are being thwarted not by the EU or the French, but our own Government.

This is despite the
Dubs amendment being passed by the Commons, referring to other refugees. (Dubs who came to the UK via the Kindertransport.)

A record on refugees which the Government should be thoroughly ashamed of, and roundly condemned for.

[mathanxiety]

[jaws5]

UK's record on refugees is being widely condemned as shameful in Europe.

[GreenandWhite]

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/10/how-do-i-protect-my-family-eu-citizens-in-britain-contemplate-their-futures

[RedToothBrush]

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/just-how-racist-strictly-come-8969815#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Just how racist is Strictly Come dancing?

I think there's some good points in this.

[GreenandWhite]

That mirror article is bleak.

[jaws5]

Very depressing, is Strictly the most popular tv show in UK? I don't follow these programs but I think it's is, together with the Baking one. If so that mirror piece is very significant.

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

Jaws, refugees shouldn't even be in France, let alone the U.K; the law says the should settle in the first place of safety. We are not part of Shengen and if all the other EU states allow them to journey to France then it is to them that France should look to for recourse, not U.K. UKs foreign aid budget is admirable but it is rightfully directed at those in genuine need. Economic migration is a different matter and there are proper channels that can be followed if it is someone's desire to settle in another country. So many on MN just think the UK is so shit. Unbelievable.

[smallfox2002]

Why shouldn't refugees be in France? You can cross the Mediterranean and end in France you know.

You also realise that the UK takes the least number of refugees out of many countries in Europe?

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

Tell me why - apart from morally - we should take any?

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

As far as I know you can't cross the Med and land in Calais though, so if it's not economic migration, what's the attraction?

[smallfox2002]

Maybe the speak English and think that it will be easy to settle here? Maybe there are families and friends here already? Our benefits are lower than those paid to refugees in other countries and other countries accept more. The UK is hardly praised for its treatment of refugees is it?

What do you think the attraction is?

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

I think they think it is a bloody good place to live. Which it is. Just wish you lots agreed with them.

[smallfox2002]

Well morally we should.

Seeing as the utter fuck up in Syria, Iraq and the Middle East in general is partially down to the interventions we have staged over the last century or so. The same goes for lots of Africa.

Or do you think the UK should be able to have profited from the exploitation of these countries and then sit back and go, oh no we're full, when we please?

Should we also leave refugees to another country to sort out?

Your moral compass is really off.

[smallfox2002]

I do agree with them. This is a debate it isn't saying the UK is bad.

We get fewer applications for asylum than other EU countries too, so making out like the hordes are at the gate is rather ridiculous.

[jaws5]

shouldn't even be in France, let alone the U.K; the law says the should settle in the first place of safety [...] apart from morally, why should they be here?
they think it is a bloody good place to live
I am stunned at the callousness on display.

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

It's not callous...I was simply asking a question...much assumption being made about my moral compass.

[smallfox2002]

You displayed your moral compass right there and then.

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

It is possible to converse in a logical and factual way rather than emotive and raging.

[DarlingBuddyOfMay]

Really? Yawn. Think you signalled yours recently when you announced that you were all right jack you were loaded and always got your way. In fact I think that's the root of your rage that this time you never

[smallfox2002]

Um that was in response to another poster, but way to take it out of context and to try to change the argument.

There is no rage, just debate.

I am cross though that the economic future of the country has been placed in jepordy, especially as many of the reasons for voting leave were utterly spurious.

Take out the people who voted for the £350 million and I don't think you would have won.

The fact that you are so pleased about a leave vote shows that you don't really understand the consequences and your attitudes towards refugees show that your vote was due to xenophobia.