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Am I unreasonable to be pissed off the Remain campaign lied/exaggerated

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John1967 · 02/09/2016 18:46

I have been following the brexit in the news and I voted remain, because I was worried my job in an multinational would be lost.

Since then the company has NO intention of moving despite bosses telling us to vote remain. I was told by remain campaigners and by pro eu people the uk would be in recession and that hundreds of thousands of jobs would be lost etc etc.

None of this is true at all now a few months has passed we haven't heard of really much impact. The ftse is up, employment is up and today construction is better then expected. House prices have dipped a little bit 2-3% but are expecting to rise again after Xmas.

The govt should be investigating both sides for being deceitful but especially remain. Yes the stock markets crashed the days after but apart from that nothing has changed and consumer confidence is at an all time high.

I would have voted leave if I'd of known and so would have many people I know who were feared into voting remain.

OP posts:
Petronius16 · 02/09/2016 20:11

^"We send the EU £350 million a week
let's fund our NHS instead"^

That lie beats the lot, alongside BoJo telling us the EU only allows bananas to be sold in bunches of two or three.

Two grandsons both recently able to vote, voted Leave on the basis of the promised £350million a week. Two days later they realised they'd been conned. I can assure you they're a good deal more bitter than their relaxed Remain voting Grandad.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 02/09/2016 20:11

BTW, my DH had to tell a client recently (who was a very noisy Leave voter) that his pension is down £800 a month as a result of Brexit. My DH voted Remain because he didn't want to have to spend his working life working overtime trying to save the skins of people who voted Leave for the hell of it. And you know what they're asking when they get the bad news now? Isn't there something you could have done??

No, he has been sitting up at 11pm on a Friday night staring at your funds looking at ways this could have been avoided and doing nothing...

But OP, my neighbour is having to wait 11 months to see a neurologist despite almost certainly having Parkinson's, a condition that responds well to early intervention. Going on the Leave promises, there should be enough in the pot for timely medical care on the NHS now, right?

YokoUhOh · 02/09/2016 20:16

OP of course you didn't vote Remain Hmm

Sovereignty is meaningless. Power is not concentrated in the hands of the UK electorate. The country is run by banks and conglomerates.

PatMullins · 02/09/2016 20:16

Thanks tutti

chocorabbit · 02/09/2016 20:21

My DH's friend who has worked in an a hospital for over 10 years said that they were all sent a letter that a wing would close down as it was funded by the EU and now it won't so they won't have the funds. How is this good news Confused Oh, yes, it's not that bad Hmm

lljkk · 02/09/2016 20:21

Maybe we could turn this around, and think about all the terrible things that were supposed to happen if we didn't leave. I'll start with...

80 million Turks on the cusp of joining EU. They seem to be a bit slow invading our shores, aren't they? Odd that.

Peregrina · 02/09/2016 20:21

Two grandsons both recently able to vote, voted Leave on the basis of the promised £350million a week. Two days later they realised they'd been conned.

Right, well, as new voters they will have an MP. Tell them to get active writing to him/her and expressing their anger. Otherwise, even the Remain MPs are parrotting that the country has spoken and they must do what the country wants. Make it clear that as younger members of the public, they have long futures ahead of them and they don't like being lied to, and say what they want now.

Tell them to rouse their friends to action too, and become active in the political process.

BTW I have written to my MP to say that since the Leave Campaign made giving money to the NHS one of the central planks of their campaign, then Brexit means Brexit won't be a success until this promise is delivered.

TooTiredToTidy · 02/09/2016 20:22

Pat thanks for answering me, I'm really sorry to hear your news. For your sake I hope the positive news means they'll be a new job around the corner?

OP: this says what I think but much more eloquently www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/09/brexit-success-after-all-dont-believe-word-it

PatMullins · 02/09/2016 20:24

That's really kind, thank you. Luckily he has a trade to fall back on in the meantime, just hoping it won't put a dent in his career- he's worked so hard to get where he is.

Fingers crossed Smile

StrattersHasACunningPlan · 02/09/2016 20:26

"Sovereignty"

Ah bless Hmm

TaIkinPeace · 02/09/2016 20:27

I have many many business contacts who voted exit
and I ask them
who will pick the veg?
as currently ALL veg picking in the UK is done by EU workers

they do four months of back breaking work and then go back home for the rest of the year
they do not bring their families
they live in caravans on site

there are not enough unemployed Brits to physically do the work.

When we leave the EU, they will be paying £2000 for their visas
so they will stay here and claim benefits
and they will bring their families

so Britain will be more crowded and worse off

TaIkinPeace · 02/09/2016 20:27

now shall I start asking questions about the people who clean toilets in nursing homes ?

IonaMumsnet · 02/09/2016 22:40

Evening all. We're going to move this thread over to the EU referendum topic in a moment.

twofingerstoGideon · 02/09/2016 23:22

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wombattoo · 02/09/2016 23:25

HQ I'd just move it to the trash. OP is talking bollocks

winkywinkola · 02/09/2016 23:43

Love the way op expects us to believe he voted Remain.

Almost as funny as voting leave because of "sovereignty".

Except it's not funny at all. It's a royal mess.

JudyCoolibar · 03/09/2016 00:31

You'll notice the effect on your travels when you go to Europe post Brexit and have to get to the back of that long, slow, non-EU citizens' queue. I must say, one of the few post-Brexit things I'm looking forward to is watching Mail readers imploding at that one.

SwedishEdith · 03/09/2016 00:35

Grin @ HQ I'd just move it to the trash. OP is talking bollocks

Peregrina · 03/09/2016 00:46

So OP would have voted Leave, didn't have the courage of his convictions, but then fortuitously for him, he got what he really wanted. So why bother to post? He might still of course, lose his job - we are still in something of a phoney war period.

I wanted to get rid of Cameron, but didn't want to risk voting against my true feelings. Well, I got that too, aren't I lucky? Cameron will go down in history as one of our most stupid Prime Ministers, but it's a case of 'be careful what you wish for' because I am not convinced that May is any better.

crazycatguy · 03/09/2016 01:00

I, too have been subject to 'practice Brexit checks' at passport control on leaving the Czech Republic about three weekends ago.

The extra waiting time will naturally be compensated for by the lack of waiting I'll be doing in future in all these new hospitals. Leave promised me one at the end of my road or something. Can't think where they'll get all the staff.....

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/09/2016 05:15

..... or the money to pay for the building materials and equipment to build the hospitals in the first place. (Just to finish your sentence Crazycat, hope you don't mind).

TeacupDrama · 03/09/2016 06:50

A post ref poll showed that approx 3% of leave voters regretted their vote and about4% of remain voters regretted their votes so even if both had voted the opposite way the result would have been the same.

twofingerstoGideon · 03/09/2016 07:31

Really Teacup? I missed that one.

Petronius16 · 03/09/2016 09:29

Is that the poll that got the last election, referendum and age profiles wrong?

Perigrina, it would make my heart sing if any of the kids/grandkids would do such a thing. The only good thing about the Referendum was families talking about politics.

Wrote to my MP straight away – I wonder if anyone knows that letters posted to their MP and Westminster do not need a stamp.

OP, I'm still puzzled as to why you believed either side as all the information could be checked. At least Remain's exaggerations had supporting figures unlike Leave's lies about the £350million, which is a sum that's never been sent to Brussels.

Having made my point, I remain suspicious of the OP's motives so will happily take my leave of this thread. Smile

TheElementsSong · 03/09/2016 11:15

What a transparently brainless and goady thread Hmm.

Even the other regular Leave posters on here can come up with better drivel that this.

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