Am I unreasonable to be pissed off the Remain campaign lied/exaggerated

[John1967]

I have been following the brexit in the news and I voted remain, because I was worried my job in an multinational would be lost.

Since then the company has NO intention of moving despite bosses telling us to vote remain. I was told by remain campaigners and by pro eu people the uk would be in recession and that hundreds of thousands of jobs would be lost etc etc.

None of this is true at all now a few months has passed we haven't heard of really much impact. The ftse is up, employment is up and today construction is better then expected. House prices have dipped a little bit 2-3% but are expecting to rise again after Xmas.

The govt should be investigating both sides for being deceitful but especially remain. Yes the stock markets crashed the days after but apart from that nothing has changed and consumer confidence is at an all time high.

I would have voted leave if I'd of known and so would have many people I know who were feared into voting remain.

It's making a small recovery because we haven't left yet. We are still in the EU. Business as usual. Let's see what happens when

• Article 50 is invoked
• The negotiations start
• Decisions start coming out of those negotiations

Yes, the Remain campaign did a lot of doom-mongering and paid the price - but nothing they said and did compared to the lies about the NHS, the evils of immigrants and the cost of EU membership peddled by the Leave campaign.

I am an EU immigrant. In the days after the referendum, my DDs were told to 'fuck off back home'. They were born here. A lot of their friends suffered the same. The death of a Polish man recently is also not a coincidence. If you want consequences of the referendum to complain about, how about those?

By the way, I work in health research. We have already had projects cancelled because big European funders and universities don't want their projects running in the UK because their staff may not be able to do their work here. It is an enormous loss to mental health and dementia research, and it is happening in other fields as well.

That is a very short sighted view OP. I have some friends who arrived in Alicante airport this week. They said that all British travellers were separated to the self scan passport area and not allowed to go to the usual passport control (other nationalities were) The delay getting through was over an hour.
They had the opinion that it was to 'show us British' what the future holds.
I don't know if that is really the case but we haven't even left yet.
There is worse to come in my opinion

And that is a good thing john It is still lower. Foreign holidays are more expensive due to poor exchange rates.

And we haven't left yet.

The Remain campaign. Ade predictions about the economy after we leave the EU. Since we haven't done that, you can't say they lied/were wrong. We can say with certainty that the Leave campaign lied.

And we haven't left yet do jumping the gun abit op.

That is a very short sighted view OP. I have some friends who arrived in Alicante airport this week. They said that all British travellers were separated to the self scan passport area and not allowed to go to the usual passport control (other nationalities were) The delay getting through was over an hour.
They had the opinion that it was to 'show us British' what the future holds.
I don't know if that is really the case but we haven't even left yet.
There is worse to come in my opinion

What a load of crap, I've visited three Eu counties in recent months. Italy, France and Czech Republic and have not faced any additional screening.

For God sake did no one read what I said I think both campaigns did dirty tricks and lied but the NHS thing I will not accept as the whole point of the leave was to take back control and so that means we decide to spend money on what we want if that's the NHS or something else.

Ah, suddenly a tone of greater certainly after your faux naif little opening gambit.
"Oh poor daft little me, I voted Remain but I was lied to!"
Aye so you did.

Why don't you wait and see, John, until we actually leave?

What a ridiculous thread.

OP there was nothing but wild speculation either side
It will take years before anyone knows reality
If you were expecting an immediate and dramatic set of issues after the vote, that is odd. But there have been knock on effects both ways with some businesses doing better and some doing worse.

I think both sides were verging on hysteria and never watched one complete debate because they were all doing my head in.

What does 'take back control' mean to you, John?

Pointy I'm sorry that happened to your daughters. That is unacceptable, immigration is an issue for many and has negatively effected many but it was too prominent in the campaign and some things were too anti immigrant. But I think we need to disconnect all of leave and the anti immigrant side of leave.

Ah yes, that old chestnut, "take back control." What, exactly, do you understand that to mean?

Oh, and while you're at it, what do you mean by "because of sovereignty."

OP I rather suspect you in fact voted "leave" and this thread is an attempt at shit-stirring

There is a looooooong way to go yet. You may yet have to eat your words.

the NHS thing I will not accept as the whole point of the leave was to take back control and so that means we decide to spend money on what we want if that's the NHS or something else.

Nonsense. We've already spent a chunk of that just propping up the pound after the referendum, and that's before we've even saved it. Then we're going to have to replace the EU money that was being used in our deprived areas like the West country and Wales, we're going to have to replace the tax revenue we will lose when businesses relocate, and we'll have to pay extra if we join the single market. If anyone seriously thinks we'll have a free choice with spending the so-called savings, they're delusional.

What utter, rambling bollocks

I don't really understand what's going to happen or what's meant to happen. Can anyone explain or is this a new thread?

But I think we need to disconnect all of leave and the anti immigrant side of leave

Why? Are we just "disconnecting" everything that's a tad inconvenient to your argument? A very hefty proportion of leave voters voted that way directly as a result of the Leave campaign's false promises on immigration. You cannot disconnect it.

Surprised nobody has mentioned the rabid racism and increase in hate crime. But jolly pleased you've not been affected by the vote op, congratulations. Sadly there are many stories that contradict yours - I know a few of them personally.

That's directed to Op, not Judy

There have been many effects already but remember we haven't left yet.
One reporter whose son was inter railing recently was made to face all kinds of barriers (yes illegal but still there) because of the vote. More importantly I have had deals put off, companies have put property transactions on hold, people are not getting jobs, things are very uncertain. It is very unfair on those already affected to suggest they are not being affected.

Makemine, we all knew that from the first post. I am sure that is so. That is just how the brexiters are. We now just have to make the best of it.

You may think it's crap OP.
I have also visited an EU country and not experienced any difference but that is not everyone's experience. Obviously

But nothing has happened yet?

You do understand this is a long term thing, don't you?