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to ask has your life changed since brexit ?

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mrsfuzzy · 24/07/2016 09:04

seems months ago since it all kicked off but only a few weeks in reality, wider society aside, has brexit changed your life a/ perhaps you've moved/in process of, changed work etc. for us nothing has changed but i'm interested in other mners [don't want to cause a punch up over the remains and leaves - that's been, gone and tired].

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SuburbanRhonda · 24/07/2016 18:46

Op asked has my life changed since brexit
Answer : no

Why didn't you just say that then?

JuanTime · 24/07/2016 18:55

I see you copied part of my post?i replied accurately and I elaborated as most others have too. You see that's how online discussions progress,a question is posed,numerous respondents share their subjective pov.and so on

The fact that I am feeling overall unaffected by brexit is my subjective opinion. My response and brexit experience doesn't negate anyone else response and experience.

FranHastings · 24/07/2016 19:04

I am also hardly seeing my husband as their company try to deal with the implications of Brexit.

Aghaidh · 24/07/2016 19:04

Why are people losing their jobs when we are still in the EU and in likelihood, going to remain in the EU?

Because of the uncertainty. For example, in academia EU students are turning down university places they've been offered as they can't guarantee that they'll be allowed to finish their studies here. Likewise research funding is impacted because they can't guarantee that (a) the top tier institutions will be able to attract the level of candidates that help give them their top tier status and justify their research weighting, and (b) that the collaborations that so many research grants are built on will be able to continue. Put simply, if I have money to invest for five years, and I don't know if you're going to be around five years from now, I'm going to find someone who will be around instead.

chocolateworshipper · 24/07/2016 19:10

I don't need to explain anyone individual reaction,as it is their subjective opinion

Not all of the experiences quoted are subjective. The family member I mentioned lost his job as a direct result of Brexit - nothing subjective about it.

JuanTime · 24/07/2016 19:17

Yes,and?no one has demanded proof of this job loss or challenged it veracity. This thread is subjective in opinion,as respondents are reporting emotions and feelings.and there is also reports of incomplete house sales,job losses,instability.

UnikittyInHerBusinessSuit · 24/07/2016 19:19

In the very short term and taking a very narrow view the fall of the pound against the dollar will be a good thing for me personally due to my employer's business structure - the last time it happened there were big bonuses all round. However in the longer term there are real risks - it all depends on whether financial institutions passporting is retained, and the uncertainty involved means that nobody is going to take the risk of investing in the UK until they know for certain whether or not we'll still have access to the Single Market.

I feel particularly worried for my academic mates who work in scientific research - things are looking very scary.

MammouthTask · 24/07/2016 19:36

I am now very self conscious when I speak my mother tongue to the dcs when out and about (I live in an area that voted out by 60+%)
I'm in the middle of a mountain of paperwork to get the famous residence card and then the British citizenship.
DH is learning my home language to be able to apply for my citizenship
Despite all the talks about not kicking us out (the uk can't do that anyway) I feel unsafe as in not sure if I still have a 'safe' home. The U.K. can chose to make it very hard hit me to stay fur example.
I also feel like I have been stripped of part off identity. I felt I belong here as a European. Now I am 'other'.
Both me and DH feel that the uk might not be a good place for us to live in the future so we have started to look at other countries. Which would mean uprooting us, the dcs and my parents..., but there is no way we will stay somewhere where xenophobia is rife (and the dcs have already been on the receiving end of that)
So yes actually it has changed a lot if things even if we aren't completely out if the EU yet

MammouthTask · 24/07/2016 19:42

Btw fur those saying that we haven't left yet, may I remind you that there is a lot of things the uk cannot participate anymore? We've lost our turn at the presidency too etc...
So no we are not out but we are nit in a more either

GloriaGaynor · 24/07/2016 20:56

It's hit my income, which has meant that I won't be starting a new 4 year course in September. I can pay for the first year, but I don't now know for sure that I can fund the following years, and my income is too low to risk a loan.

Chikara · 24/07/2016 21:07

Some friends and family members in banking and scientific research report negative consequences. House sales - including my own - have been affected.

Agree that much is subjective and feelings/fears rather than direct consequences, (include my own posts), although no-one disbelieves anything anyone is saying.

There were however very real consequences for people in the last 5-10 years of the mass-immigration from the EU especially in areas where there were few employers and those recruited direct from E.Europe. There were very real effects of EU membership - and not always good news for everybody.

I am not saying it will be better for everyone post-Brexit - but there are always winners and losers on both sides.

JuanTime · 24/07/2016 21:21

U.K. Hasn't invoked article 50 or got down to negotiating exit terms,so it is significant that uk haven't left yet.as PM now need to negotiate terms and departure date.its a kind of limbo,know uk going,not formally departed yet. Interesting will be negotiating exit and a timetable. And what happens in Scotland,given that was a decisive remain vote

Chikara · 24/07/2016 21:27

PS That'snot meant to be goady or dismissive - just a bit philosophical. As I said, I am likely to be a loser post Brexit

NotTooBothered · 24/07/2016 21:43

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SouperSal · 24/07/2016 22:59

Yep. DH's contract won't be renewed past next month.

For the first time ever I'm considering moving abroad.

springwaters · 24/07/2016 23:15

For the first time ever I'm considering moving abroad.

So am I , partly in case options to life and work abroad are narrowed in the future.

perkies · 24/07/2016 23:31

Yep a few things

  • family members who've married non-Brits experiencing pretty nasty racism which is leaving them feeling really vulnerable & unhappy, and when they're unhappy, my whole family feel unhappy.
  • health-wise I'm concerned that food manufacturers will be taking the opportunity to water down EU food labelling laws meaning that if a packet of crisps, for ex, says it doesn't contain gluten, I might not be able to believe it. So it makes eating food a dangerous, new kind of sport... :(

Less importantly:

  • investments looking shaky
  • pensions looking shaky
(Though we have a few years to ride this out, it's a bummer)
  • general feeling of misery, doom and gloom everywhere
  • major building project cancelled afaik which means job losses and regeneration

Positive side:
Legislation affecting some of my work will be relaxed, which takes a tiny bit of pressure off. But I'm slightly clutching at straws, here as I've moved my biz away from exposure to this problem area, so bit of a moot point I guess :(

Overall - not even a month into Brexit and pretty shit so far :(

Peppatina · 24/07/2016 23:44

Does it count if the reaction to the vote has affected me mentally?

I feel anger.

Angry because I feel I've been duped all these years.

It feels a bit like all those liberal well meaning folks who would occasionally pay lip service to being disgusted by racism only actually seem to or actually admit to realising it was a problem when it started happening to white people. Hmm

My own experiences of racism, some quite vicious, from some Romanian men close to my home was discounted as xenophobic or ignored because it didn't fit in with the narrative of the time. It felt like I was shut down.

But it happens to a few white people and BAM all over the media, outcry, protestations of 'not in my name'!

And I am sorry that it is happening to anyone. I truly am.

But I wish to god that all these people 'mobilising' on social media about this sudden huge problem of racism (that has been there the whole time but didn't 'count') would see how it looks to those of us wondering why the fuck you weren't all outraged enough to get politically motivated before it started happening to white people.

fakenamefornow · 24/07/2016 23:54

Not much actual real change for me yet apart from our holiday costing more.

I feel very anxious about the future though, anxious in that can't sleep, am clumsy and worry a lot. I'm 47, I've never felt like this before in my life. I want to move to the eu but can't and we're not eligible for any other passport.

BertrandRussell · 25/07/2016 07:31

Can we have some anecdotes about how life has got better, even in little ways, since the vote?

MuffyTheUmpireSlayer · 25/07/2016 07:36

Yes. A child in DD's class told her that he doesn't like "brown" people and I've been told to "go back to my country" (I was born here as were my parents and grandparents Hmm - not that that should even matter anyway!)

Even colleagues who I previously thought were nice, ordinary people have felt more comfortable saying things like "well I'm probably going to sound a bit racist now but I don't care" when telling stories.

Peregrina · 25/07/2016 07:38

Better: here's one. A UK based friend works for a continental firm, and is paid in Euros, so he's immediately better off. Will he be better off in the long term, if his freedom of movement is restricted? I suspect he would just retire so the question wouldn't arise.

I am not sure if that's the sort of example you want though.

soyvanillalatte · 25/07/2016 07:39

Life has changed for us. We are desperately trying to think of ways to support ourselves into old age, my foreign money is currently worth slightly more, my husband's business looks like it will lose a big contract.

228agreenend · 25/07/2016 07:53

No real change party from holiday money will,cost more.

Locally, there a large number of houses for sale, so bucking the change of fewer sales (not sure about prices).

I know,of,one person who,is planning to sell and live off their equity for a while. I guess they are hoping house prices will fall.

Hearing all,the upsurge in racism is distressing.

228agreenend · 25/07/2016 07:55

Did hear from a local business who,said that the drop,in euros would make their business more competitive abroad, so could benefit them.