The Westminster Hunger Games Contines. May Day! May Day!

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THE BREXIT FALLOUT CONTINUES - THREAD NINE

The Tories have settled their scores and May is now PM.
Is it May's Day or May Day for the people?

After careful consideration I thought the best way to sum up the Labour Contest was in one simple picture. May Day, might also be appropriate here too.

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Things are moving fast, so hold on tight for the Brexit Ride

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2683852-The-Westministenders-Hunger-Games-continues-Hunting-for-the-Opposition?pg=1 Previous Thread Eight.

Odious Whittingdale too!

Oh May has really cracked that whip

The BBC rolling text is very good, saying:

"The Notting Hill set is being taken out" and that TM is "dismantling the old Cameron network"

They also point out that Gove didn't have a hope in hell once BJ had a senior position.

Oh May has really cracked that whip Whittingdale can go back to his 'private life'.

Hmmmm, the Guardian is saying it's unclear if Whittingdale had perhaps been given another post.

He'd better put down the gimp suit for the moment.

Justine Greening likely to get Education

Justine Greening rumoured for Education.

X post Squoosh!

How much leeway is TM likely to get from Dacre and Murdoch given that they've now had glimpses of the right wing alternative? Any chance of pro-BBC for DCMS?

I'm really unsure what to think about BoJo getting the foreign office.

Why has Johnson got one of the big posts, when his former sidekick Gove - who was widely considered to be doing a decent job - has got the boot?

It's such a savage reshuffle, and Boris could so easily have been taken down, that it's hard to believe that there isn't a good reason for risking the UK's international reputation by appointing him. The Eurosceptics could have been appeased by Fox and Davis surely? And it's obvious that May wanted to end the "chumocracy" (hence Gove and Osborne getting the boot) - so how come Boris is the only chum(p) left standing?

I am genuinely puzzled.

I wonder how much personal feeling goes into the reshuffle. Maybe May had a greater personal dislike for Gove and couldn't resist showing him the door. There must be an element of vengeance in a reshuffle. Even for those with the coolest heads.

I suppose that Gove could never successfully challenge May for leadership. But Johnson might. So he has to be contained.

I think the guardian said that May and Gove had pretty serious pitched battles whole she was home sec and he was justice sec and when she won he'd bitch to the media. I'm guessing that BJ was the only one of that triumvirate that she could stomach.

I suppose that Gove could never successfully challenge May for leadership. But Johnson might. So he has to be contained.

I understand this argument, but the FO? At a time when Britain will need all the friends it can muster? He's insulted both the incumbent president and the probable incoming president. And the Chinese are unimpressed too. It's such an odd thing to do without a really good reason.

so how come Boris is the only chum(p) left standing?
Because he is popular with the British public. He could have attacked her Brexit policies from his Telegraph column. He will possibly make an arse of himself and get sacked. Or maybe she genuinely thinks he will do well.

Delighted re Gove and Morgan

US president obviously

Tim Farron might explode at how much of a reshuffle and 'unmandated' this is.

As a lawyer I'm actually a little worried who is going to get the Ministry of Justice next. Grayling was so woeful that it actually made Gove look quite good and reasonable.

howabout the idea that the Labour Party can't win a general e;ection without Scottish seats isn't actually true. It's more difficult of course, but still possible.

The total number of seats in Scotland (59), even if a significant number of those had gone to Labour, wouldn't have made a difference to the overall result in the 2015 GE.

Labour has a unique set of problems up here in Scotland but also in England, where they are haemorraghing votes to UKIP in their traditional heartlands.

Until they tackle that issue, they won't win a GE - regardless of how Scotland votes.

Sorry for the divergence folks.

Showme good luck for the meeting - stay safe. I'll be very interested to hear how that goes.

Regarding the reshuffle, I'm pleased to see Gove getting the boot. It's no more than he deserves.

Ooh Hunt's gone! We're going to have to build up a whole new set of resentments here.

Sorry for the garbled grammar. Hope that makes sense!

Because he is popular with the British public. He could have attacked her Brexit policies from his Telegraph column. He will possibly make an arse of himself and get sacked. Or maybe she genuinely thinks he will do well.

It's difficult to be a good foreign minister when you are starting from a point of zero respect from most foreign governments. And if he makes an arse of himself and gets sacked, that has positive domestic implications, but rather serious foreign policy ones.

I thought at first that it was a clever appointment (take away europe and foreign trade, give him enough rope to hang himself) but I no longer believe that. It was either (a) forced - the price of prime ministership or (b) a miscalculation.

Tim Farron might explode at how much of a reshuffle and 'unmandated' this is

Tim surely must have worked out by now, that when people wanked on about needing 'democracy' and 'sovereignty' what they really meant was 'fuck those pesky foreigners'.

Great news re Gove & Morgan.
Gove was ideology driven so probably harder to manage on a day to day basis as part of inner circle than Johnson's egotism & political ambition.
Also as many have said before me FO with reduced mandate due to new depts = lots of travelling around the world & not as much time to cause trouble.
He did a lot of this as London mayor already.

Re: Johnson I think May have been blinded by domestic politics considerations, and made a mistake.

I'm more than happy to celebrate the demise of Morgan, Gove, Hunt and friends, but I have a bad feeling that we'll get fresh new horrors instead.