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The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 14:18

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD EIGHT!

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Each of the parties seem to have a taken a very different style to their leadership contests.

The Tory party have been well documented as doing in the classic style of Hamlet. After the entire Conservative Party have spent two weeks stabbing each in the back and front, May steps forward to take the crown for herself.

But what about the others?

The UKIP leadership contest seems to be in comedy style of Peter Kay’s Phoenix Nights. In a strange turn of events, that no one predicted and seem quite absurd, they seem to be changing their rules so their new leader must have been a member for 5 years. The punchline is this rules just about everyone out, apart from Neil Hamilton and Steven Woolfe. As BigChocFrenzy points out, we are expecting Arron Banks to hand out the brown envelopes. We are just waiting for the poorly thought out, and badly booked racist band to turn up and make everyone cringe in horror and distract everyone from UKIP's candidates and their manifestos in the process.

Meanwhile Labour Party decide to do what they thought was Star Wars Panto. After spending a week going “She’s Standing”, “Oh No She’s Not” Angela Eagle is declared the Empire Strikes Back candidate by Diane Abbot. Well if she’s the rebel leader, then who is Darth Vader and the Emperor?

Unfortunately, you’d be forgiven for thinking the performance is starting to look more and more like a re-enactment of One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, by the minute:

A battle of wills between two forces locked together in a room with ultimately different and opposing self-interests. This is only resolved when the new leader to the dynamic who sought to upset the institution, and give the others their freedom, is lobotomised and subsequently killed in an act of mercy. His murderer manages to escape the prison to the cheers of those still stuck inside.

The Greens of course are a foreign language film, no one has heard of and no one is really that interested in watching.

The Lib Dems are merely sat in the audience. With Tim Farron heckling.

But where is Gandalf? Sad

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At least some sanity has returned and we now have some leaders. May can now get stuck into the job of handing the nightmare that is Brexit whilst making herself at home at Number 10. Rumours are circulating that it’s been left a bit of a pigsty.

We will follow May, on her new adventures to foreign lands to persuade Merkel and Juncker to hand over a mythical unicorn to the UK. Meanwhile will we continue our own hunt for the opposition, whilst we all consult our dictionaries for the meaning of the word ‘Brexit’ in bafflement in the wake of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.

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Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:08

Nearly a slip of the tongue there. DC nearly said 'since we came to power' and adjusted and said 'since I became prime minister'.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:10

Did you see the faces of the Labour Party at that dig by Cameron...

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GingerIvy · 13/07/2016 12:12

0% contracts 1 in 40 people on them, and DC thinks that's GOOD??

Unicornsarelovely · 13/07/2016 12:12

It's just different bands of elites cocking it up all over the place - Winchester for labour in one corner vs Eton for the tories in another, while Dulwich college and whichever public school Arron banks went to fight it out for UKIP.

How about a ban on politicians who go to boarding schools? ( tongue in cheek, but...)

GingerIvy · 13/07/2016 12:13

And I can't say I'm impressed that DC is spending all the time on the quips about Labour. What's the point of PMQ if it's just trading insults?

Margrethe · 13/07/2016 12:13

Redtoothbrushes' link led me to this cartoon.

The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.
RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:14

Sophy Ridge ‏@SophyRidgeSky
Cameron says Corbyn reminds him of the black knight in Monty Python's Holy Grail - "keep going it's only a flesh wound" #PMQs

Faisal Islam ‏@faisalislam

Corbyn says "democracy is a wonderful thing and I'm enjoying every minute of it"... Then quotes May talking about "exploitative bosses"

Jim Waterson ‏@jimwaterson

Labour MPs can't stop laughing when Tory MPs point at Corbyn when the Labour leader raises the topic of "unfair bosses".

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:16

And I can't say I'm impressed that DC is spending all the time on the quips about Labour. What's the point of PMQ if it's just trading insults?

Its new kinder gentler politics.
Obviously.

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TheBathroomSink · 13/07/2016 12:17

End of term fever, I think, is making it worse than usual.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:17

Photographic evidence that DC loves Larry.

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GingerIvy · 13/07/2016 12:18

Good grief. Hero worship of DC much with that guy? Hmm

TheNorthRemembers · 13/07/2016 12:19

Had to do a bit of work, so catching up now.

Showme Stay safe.

The momentum guy sounded very posh on Radio 4 this morning, but they all do.
Nick Robinson said the constituency meetings are suspended for the duration of the leadership contest.

Our Branch Jeremyan had to cancel last week's public events, as most of us ready to muck in are not Corbynistas, and there was no one else to do it.
Although I am no longer a member, noone seems to take my resignation seriously.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:19

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/labour-chief-whip-complains-corbyn-momentum-threats-abuse-mps/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Official complaint raised by Labour whips about Momentum

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Peregrina · 13/07/2016 12:20

I'm not at all surprised that Momentum has a toff pretending to be left wing. Those SWP types I knew at University (40 years ago) were from exactly the same mould. After a few years of playing politics, they ended up with a nice little job in the City, gained by using contacts, and a nice house in an expensive part of London or the South East. Why, oh why, do people buy it?

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:23

Westminster voting intention:
CON: 36% (+1)
LAB: 35% (+1)
LDEM: 11% (+2)
UKIP: 8% (-2)
GRN: 4% (-)
(via Ipsos Mori / 09 - 11 Jul)

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Valentine2 · 13/07/2016 12:23

I don't think I endorse Momentum but I can't help feeling sorry for this guy if he was raised on that kind of money. It's not his fault. What do you want him to do? Erase his childhood somehow?

BigChocFrenzy · 13/07/2016 12:25

Cameron can't say what his government is going to do - because it's not his any more !
So knockabout comedy is all that's left.

He should leave the jokes to Ruth Davidson though; she is brilliantly funny
V clever too.
I so hope TM brings her into the cabinet, because there is only 1 Tory MP in Scotland, who is hardly impressive.
TM reportedly wishes to bring in more women; Ruth deserves office on her own merits and she can't win that in Scotland.

If Cabinet Ministers can be from the HoL, then they can also come from Holyrood.
Bringing the UK together requires effective representation for Scotland;
and NI - stop treating them like an English colony who can be taken for granted.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:27

Why, oh why, do people buy it?
People will believe what they WANT to believe...

...meanwhile in the real world without Unicorns.

Cameron, praising Academies. And National Citizen Service.

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 12:32

No not erase his childhood. It is however difficult to take someone who has that has that background seriously.

Its a bit like Bono preaching about world poverty - someone who gets routinely mocked particularly hard by the likes of Momentum.

In terms of 'purity of ideology' it just makes you go 'WHAT?!'.

In terms of supporting the idea, its fine, but playing such key roles? Hmm. It rather undermines the message you are trying to make.

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TheBathroomSink · 13/07/2016 12:34

val - no, it's not his fault, but he could stop pretending to be some sort of working-class saviour, and raging against 'the elites', and the 'Eton-educated ruling classes' as so much of their rhetoric does.

GingerIvy · 13/07/2016 12:35

I love how these people are asking Cameron to aid in Brexit - how conveniently they've forgotten were it not for him, it wouldn't be happening?

wooflesgoestotown · 13/07/2016 12:36

This may be off topic so feel free to ignore but the contributors here are so knowledgeable!!
On academies/ free schools - am I right in thinking that all schools will eventually end up one or the other?
If so, as neither has to follow the National Curriculum is there not a huge risk of losing central control over what kids are taught?
My DC school recently became an academy and they're now slashing PE and especially swimming tuition as it's expensive but not directly useful to the school. Also see the same for music.
We could well end up with a generation of kids who can't swim and don't get much exercise or musical education.
Any suggestion education could get any changes now?

wooflesgoestotown · 13/07/2016 12:36

This may be off topic so feel free to ignore but the contributors here are so knowledgeable!!
On academies/ free schools - am I right in thinking that all schools will eventually end up one or the other?
If so, as neither has to follow the National Curriculum is there not a huge risk of losing central control over what kids are taught?
My DC school recently became an academy and they're now slashing PE and especially swimming tuition as it's expensive but not directly useful to the school. Also see the same for music.
We could well end up with a generation of kids who can't swim and don't get much exercise or musical education.
Any suggestion education could get any changes now?

Peregrina · 13/07/2016 12:38

Warm words for the departing prime minister from veteran Tory Eurosceptic Peter Lilley, who says the PM leaves the country "more prosperous, more solvent, more tolerant, more fair and more free".

He will "command the respect of generations to come", Mr Lilley enthuses.

What can you say to that except 'Bloody hell'? Has he been asleep for the last 3 weeks, and not noticed the huge upsurge in racist attacks, and of foreigners who have made their homes here and contributed to society being told to 'go home'?

It might eventually work out, but I doubt if Cameron will get the credit. Once England lost its American Colonies it turned its eye east and south and built its prosperity on The Empire. Was Lord North seen as the architect of that, or was he seen as an abject failure for losing the Colonies?

GingerIvy · 13/07/2016 12:40

They are backdooring in their own curriculum by the SATs anyway. Schools must teach to the tests, therefore even though there is a NC, they are controlling what's being taught by demanding these tests and requiring a certain percentage of passing.

Once they're all academies, I expect the game will change again to allow them control.

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