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The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 14:18

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD EIGHT!

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Each of the parties seem to have a taken a very different style to their leadership contests.

The Tory party have been well documented as doing in the classic style of Hamlet. After the entire Conservative Party have spent two weeks stabbing each in the back and front, May steps forward to take the crown for herself.

But what about the others?

The UKIP leadership contest seems to be in comedy style of Peter Kay’s Phoenix Nights. In a strange turn of events, that no one predicted and seem quite absurd, they seem to be changing their rules so their new leader must have been a member for 5 years. The punchline is this rules just about everyone out, apart from Neil Hamilton and Steven Woolfe. As BigChocFrenzy points out, we are expecting Arron Banks to hand out the brown envelopes. We are just waiting for the poorly thought out, and badly booked racist band to turn up and make everyone cringe in horror and distract everyone from UKIP's candidates and their manifestos in the process.

Meanwhile Labour Party decide to do what they thought was Star Wars Panto. After spending a week going “She’s Standing”, “Oh No She’s Not” Angela Eagle is declared the Empire Strikes Back candidate by Diane Abbot. Well if she’s the rebel leader, then who is Darth Vader and the Emperor?

Unfortunately, you’d be forgiven for thinking the performance is starting to look more and more like a re-enactment of One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, by the minute:

A battle of wills between two forces locked together in a room with ultimately different and opposing self-interests. This is only resolved when the new leader to the dynamic who sought to upset the institution, and give the others their freedom, is lobotomised and subsequently killed in an act of mercy. His murderer manages to escape the prison to the cheers of those still stuck inside.

The Greens of course are a foreign language film, no one has heard of and no one is really that interested in watching.

The Lib Dems are merely sat in the audience. With Tim Farron heckling.

But where is Gandalf? Sad

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At least some sanity has returned and we now have some leaders. May can now get stuck into the job of handing the nightmare that is Brexit whilst making herself at home at Number 10. Rumours are circulating that it’s been left a bit of a pigsty.

We will follow May, on her new adventures to foreign lands to persuade Merkel and Juncker to hand over a mythical unicorn to the UK. Meanwhile will we continue our own hunt for the opposition, whilst we all consult our dictionaries for the meaning of the word ‘Brexit’ in bafflement in the wake of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.

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Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2682358-The-Westministenders-Media-Baron-Hunger-Games-continues-Is-it-about-to-all-implode?pg=1 Previous thread 7

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GingerIvy · 12/07/2016 14:57

Chalala I know. Appalling, isn't it?

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MrsLupo · 12/07/2016 14:58

Oh and a competition to name the new party/parties...prize is an all expenses trip to the hell out of here

How about: Benn Angela Seema Tom and the Remnants of a Dying Socialism. Just need a snappy abbreviation for it…

Grin

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Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 14:58

merry very good you are winning the competition

How about the Tooting Popular Front. .......Alright Wolfie! (showing my age)
Or Just..... 'The Borg'

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TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 14:58

Lol at John Lewis.

Perhaps they will just rebrand to Cuba North?

I think we can expect cabinet announcements from Thursday on.

The biggest thing on parliamentary schedule would seem to be the trident vote next week, I think it's all quite quiet because it's almost recess time. Also Bank of England rates meeting on Thursday.

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derxa · 12/07/2016 14:59

So much knowledge. So much balanced, reasoned discussion. Such a lack of sycophancy / agreeing with everyone else / bullying / bunfighting between people with different viewpoints
Maybe we could form the government and lead Brexit. Grin

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 14:59

Momentum ‏@PeoplesMomentum
@benpbradshaw your comments on BBC not just factually incorrect but a divisive & vile smear. We will be seeking legal advice.

Oh God what's been said?

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 15:07

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/what-jeremy-corbyn-was-doing-on-monday-night-instead-of-meeting-with-his-mps--Z1b7Q5uEoBb
What Jeremy Corbyn did last night Didn't the collective wisdom of Mumnet report this all last night?

order-order.com/2016/07/12/ruth-davidsons-scathing-speech/
Ruth Davidson does a speech and doesn't mince words.

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Unicornsarelovely · 12/07/2016 15:07

We'd be a great government. Any particularly robust policies could be tested through AIBU...

I thought Larry was the civil service's Downing Street office cat and tolerated by the Camerons but not their pet. I always knew he was a dog person. A cat person would never have held a referendum without fixing either the question or answer or both!

The JC thing is interesting (Chinese sense). I think he meets a real need for a more left wing view, but it now appears that anyone who questions him at all is a secret Tory denying his greatness. It completely overlooks the fact that there are other proper left wing people in the Labour Party who are actually prepared to do the job as leader of the opposition for which JC does not appear suited.

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 15:12

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-second-eu-referendum-petition-latest-news-debate-parliament-mps-uk-position-in-europe-a7132836.html
Breaking News:
2nd Referendum petition debate to be 5th Sept in the House of Commons.

This means a50 CAN NOT BE INVOKED BEFORE THAT DATE.

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BestIsWest · 12/07/2016 15:12

Brilliant opening paragraph again Red

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derxa · 12/07/2016 15:13

Despite making a fortune outside parliament since 2007, the Cabinet Office has confirmed to MailOnline that Mr Blair has continued to claim the income of around £80,000 a year
If Jeremy had got his act together he could have been an antidote to this.

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MrsLupo · 12/07/2016 15:14

there are other proper left wing people in the Labour Party who are actually prepared to do the job as leader of the opposition

So...where are they? Genuinely.

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TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 15:16

Bradshaw was on BBC news,tweeted this :
His ritual condemnation is not enough, Jeremy must ACT against such violence now t.co/obNVkaO3MC seems he was angry in the i/view. Can't find clip, at the school gate!

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Unicornsarelovely · 12/07/2016 15:18

Lisa bandy or Owen smith are both left aren't they? I don't know why they won't stand. I guess for fear of being deselected, but that's the only person who might conceivably be able to win the ballot and continue the good stuff JC has done. Where does Keri starmer stand?

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Unicornsarelovely · 12/07/2016 15:18

Fgs Lisa Nandy or Keir Starmer!

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MrsLupo · 12/07/2016 15:20

Keir Starmer would be my pick. He was asked to stand in 2015 but said he was too inexperienced. Still true, but life is strange at the moment, and if Andrea Leadsom can stand for PM anything can happen.

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Peregrina · 12/07/2016 15:22

Why does the 2nd Referendum debate mean that Art.50 cannot be invoked?
Won't it just be taken as a gauge of how Referenda should be conducted in future, assuming there are any more?

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 15:23

Any particularly robust policies could be tested through AIBU...

You joke about that, but if they did listen to feedback from MN I'm sure that problems and unintended side effects would be lessened.

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MrsLupo · 12/07/2016 15:24

Breaking News:
2nd Referendum petition debate to be 5th Sept in the House of Commons.
This means a50 CAN NOT BE INVOKED BEFORE THAT DATE.

This is very interesting news. I signed the petition (more in a spirit of troublemaking than even hope, never mind expectation), so I've had email updates on it. The 'response' was such a fob off I assumed they wouldn't be bothering with a debate. Is it a whole Commons debate or a petitions committee debate? It would be good to really lean on MPs over the summer to make sure it's well attended and meaningful.

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Chalalala · 12/07/2016 15:25

just found an old Guardian profile of Keir Starmer that describes him as a "QC with a passion for human rights" - sounds like just the opposition Theresa May needs.

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RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 15:26

Statement about the HoC debate on the petition debate.

The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.
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Unicornsarelovely · 12/07/2016 15:26

Governments of all stripes don't want feedback at all though, especially not in a robust form... Partly why we're all in this mess now I think as people have to shout so loudly and push people out of the way to be heard, extremes become disproportionately loud.

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Nonreplicable · 12/07/2016 15:27

The Petitions Committee said it has decided to schedule a house of commons debate on 5 September. The committee said it " decided that the huge number of people supporting the petition means that it should be debated by the MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum ""

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Chalalala · 12/07/2016 15:29

He was asked to stand in 2015 but said he was too inexperienced. Still true, but life is strange at the moment

On the bright side any new Labour leader would have about 4 years to learn on the job before facing a GE, so now's the time to bring in fresh new faces...

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MrsLupo · 12/07/2016 15:29

Thanks Red. Wow. I think that is the most exciting development since this whole fuckstorm kicked off.

"It will be up to the government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum." Wow.

Bit different from Brexit means Brexit.

Shock

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