The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.

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THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD EIGHT!

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Each of the parties seem to have a taken a very different style to their leadership contests.

The Tory party have been well documented as doing in the classic style of Hamlet. After the entire Conservative Party have spent two weeks stabbing each in the back and front, May steps forward to take the crown for herself.

But what about the others?

The UKIP leadership contest seems to be in comedy style of Peter Kay’s Phoenix Nights. In a strange turn of events, that no one predicted and seem quite absurd, they seem to be changing their rules so their new leader must have been a member for 5 years. The punchline is this rules just about everyone out, apart from Neil Hamilton and Steven Woolfe. As BigChocFrenzy points out, we are expecting Arron Banks to hand out the brown envelopes. We are just waiting for the poorly thought out, and badly booked racist band to turn up and make everyone cringe in horror and distract everyone from UKIP's candidates and their manifestos in the process.

Meanwhile Labour Party decide to do what they thought was Star Wars Panto. After spending a week going “She’s Standing”, “Oh No She’s Not” Angela Eagle is declared the Empire Strikes Back candidate by Diane Abbot. Well if she’s the rebel leader, then who is Darth Vader and the Emperor?

Unfortunately, you’d be forgiven for thinking the performance is starting to look more and more like a re-enactment of One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, by the minute:

A battle of wills between two forces locked together in a room with ultimately different and opposing self-interests. This is only resolved when the new leader to the dynamic who sought to upset the institution, and give the others their freedom, is lobotomised and subsequently killed in an act of mercy. His murderer manages to escape the prison to the cheers of those still stuck inside.

The Greens of course are a foreign language film, no one has heard of and no one is really that interested in watching.

The Lib Dems are merely sat in the audience. With Tim Farron heckling.

But where is Gandalf?

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At least some sanity has returned and we now have some leaders. May can now get stuck into the job of handing the nightmare that is Brexit whilst making herself at home at Number 10. Rumours are circulating that it’s been left a bit of a pigsty.

We will follow May, on her new adventures to foreign lands to persuade Merkel and Juncker to hand over a mythical unicorn to the UK. Meanwhile will we continue our own hunt for the opposition, whilst we all consult our dictionaries for the meaning of the word ‘Brexit’ in bafflement in the wake of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.

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Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2682358-The-Westministenders-Media-Baron-Hunger-Games-continues-Is-it-about-to-all-implode?pg=1 Previous thread 7

"libertarian" which generally means hard right, social Darwinism
That's not the description I would give for libertarian to be honest.

Libertarians can be hard left.
They can be anti-capitalist.
OR
They can be free-market advocates.

BigChoc and Doin agree with you completely about AE. She deserves credit IMO.

I'm disliking all the crowing and triumphalism from the JC supporters. Doesn't feel like there's much to celebrate here with a Labour Party in complete meltdown and no effective left wing opposition.

Owen Smith " The truth is John McDonnell is part of the problem we have in the Labour party.

I want this to be resolved without a damaging, divisive leadership contest. I wanted Jeremy Corbyn to find a way to heal the Labour party, to bring us back and unite us.

I’ve put that to him on three occasions, but to John McDonnell I said I feared he had decided that people on his part of the party wanted to split the Labour party and he said to me, he shrugged his shoulders and said ‘if that’s what it takes’. I am not prepared to stand by and let the Labour party, the party I love, that has been the greatest force for good in this country, split – it cannot happen."

If this is true it says a lot about the motivation of Corbyn and his team.

Just a question:

If part of the process of becoming PM is to kiss the hand of the Queen, how would take sit with Corbyn if he ever did become PM?

Would he refuse to do that? Would this cause a constitutional crisis/political row involving the Queen?

In the context of the day is interesting.

Good thought, red. He probably would, but it would be the Queen's fault, of course, because Corbyn's principles are everything, and clearly the Queen is in the wrong and should be deselected.

YY Eats

I've unfollowed a couple of friends on my FB feed due to the constant regurgitation of uncritical, fawning posts about JC and bile about AE. "Why the evil media aren't reporting JC's Cure for Cancer", "Angela Eagle eats babies for breakfast", "Why everyone who doesn't agree with me is a lying, anti-democratic traitor" - etc etc ad nauseum.

I think in order to be an effective PM, Corbyn would have to learn that some conformity is necessary. I don't know if he would do that, however.

Andrew Neil has just said on Daily Politics that local parties have been told not to have meetings. I still don't know if this is properly confirmed, or all comes from Ross Hawkins' report on Today.

He has been very scathing of JMcD and Mark Serwotka's conduct last night, the Labour MP he is talking to is dodging the question of whether this is an example of a kinder gentler politics.

I feel sad how this whole situation is probably affecting the younger generation.

Cameron's last supper: A takeaway curry from Kennington Tandoori.

Alastair Campbell ‏@campbellclaret
Two public schoolboys, Milne and Schneider, and a multimillionaire property guy, Lansman, puppeteering Corbyn to destroy Labour
#newpolitics

WHHHHATTTTT??!!!! Can't be true?!

It is Richard Burgon who AN is talking to, I have now seen.

Fundamentally I think JC is an ideologist and not a politician.

In the case of the former is ok not to compromise or really think about the feasibility, cost and implications of whatever stance your taking.

A politician has an ideology but realises that there is a need to translate that into a manifesto that is actually deliverable and affordable.

Cameron's last supper: A takeaway curry from Kennington Tandoori.

WHHHHATTTTT??!!!! Can't be true?!

It's okay. Curry is lovely, you know. Yum.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12047894/James-Schneider-face-of-Momentum-activists-with-education-and-childhood-home-paid-for-by-fraud.html

Kill.Me.Now.

It is incredible that any but the most fanatical JC supporters can listen to McDonnell saying
"if that’s what it takes"
and not immediately run sceaming.

JC and his movement are saying it is worth destroying the Labour Party to make its ashes ideologically pure

Listen to them telling you exactly what they are < screams loudly !! >

I hope Cameron doesn't revert to his Bullingdon days and trash the curry house !

Do you think Cameron's a Vindaloo or a Korma man? Or does he go for the ever popular Tikka Masala?

I think he has Vindaloo, then gets red in the face and regrets it.

— Jesse Norman (@Jesse_Norman)
July 13, 2016
Extraordinarily courteous of the Labour Party to lay on so much extra material for the Prime Minister at his final PMQs.

Jim Waterson ‏@jimwaterson 2m2 minutes ago
Massive cheers for Jeremy Corbyn in House of Commons.... From Tory MPs.

Noon. Time for PMQs.

Bye bye Dave.

I see Cameron as a prawn bhuna. Mainly because I think they stink and would never be allowed in my house.

But anyway, the most surprising thing about the idea that Mr Momentum has a shady background is that I am not surprised. Depressed, but not surprised.

It's sad. A strong opposition is always good for the country. At the moment Labour is irrelevant. It looks like Momentum is the minnow who swallowed a whale (the Labour party). Some sort of split looks inevitable at the moment.

Is the rise of Momentum in the Labour party a direct result of the changes Ed Miliband made regarding the way the party is run? If so, I doubt this was what he intended.

I fail to see the purpose of DC running PMQs. They're all asking HIM to do something, he says he'll look at it. And then he'll just hand it over to TM.

Ooh I quite like a prawn bhuna!

The Momentum bloke sounds like a nasty piece of work. Also depressed, also not surprised.

Taking back power from the elite? Yeah, right.