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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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Showmethewaytogohome · 11/07/2016 17:27

Red That is funny

Although Corbyn is giving me the rage! Can't MN'ers dispatch of him like all the others...so far you've got rid of Boris, Nige, Gove and Loathsome

What do we need to do to unclasp his fingers from the throne? I suspect doing away with Maccy John and Diiiaaaannnnee first may be required

Come on MN'ers you can do it!

Wordsaremything · 11/07/2016 17:28

All that Tricket waffle about keys to number ten - just when I thought my opinion could sadly sink no lower, it does. They are just an embarrassment. Angry

BigChocFrenzy · 11/07/2016 17:28

May has inherited the poison chalice after all the men ran away.
Probably the only circumstances under which we'd get woman PM #2
(in business too, women CEOs usually happen only after a disaster)
Well, at least she's well qualified, with lengthy cabinet experience and has some encouraging plans
(yes, chaps, you really are supposed to plan)
She can truthfully day she didn't promise the unicorns.

She is in a fairly safe position for some time, because the vast number of Tory MPs are Remainers while the others - and also the Tory Party members - won't want to lose yet another Tory PM for the next few years.
Looks like several months, maybe years before Labour are in a fit state to oppose effectively.

She can't allow let the noisiest section of the 52%, who are a minority of the population, block or threaten everyone else if they don't get their own way.

They won a referendum to Brexit, not to stop immigration.
The least bad Brexit deal she can get would probably not change EU immigration much.
The EU themselves look to be worried about non-EU immigration now, so measures on that may be possible.

Come 2020, no deal = TM on toast. However, if she's signed & delivered an EEA deal, she'll probably win again
Especially if Labour are still fighting themselves and tweeting about dental hygienists in Outer Mongolia

Very few voters would listen to UKIP after the deal is done - no enthusiasm to pull out of the EEA to start yet another meltdown.

CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 17:34

I think Eagle's branding looks like it should be above one of those boutiques that sells sparkly party dresses for £19.99.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 17:34

The problem with trying to parody Diiiaaaaannnnnneeee is that she is beyond it. If you started suggesting she's promised everyone a personal unicorn nurse, she'd probably agree and say she was doing it, and then tell you she'd done it and you just couldn't see it.

Playduh · 11/07/2016 17:39

Just been watching Theresa's announcement with DS.

Is that lady a witch or a fairy?

She's a fairy darling (he gets frightened by witches, this isn't an opinion)

Does she have her magic wand?

Let's hope so darling...

CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 17:39

I share your son's worries Playduh!

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 17:40

This is the closest I can get to a statement from JC:
Shortly after Andrea Leadsom withdrew from the Conservative Party leadership race, a source close to Corbyn said: “If May is installed, then this makes a Labour summer leadership campaign a luxury the party cannot afford.”
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-does-not-want-summer-leadership-battle-a3293046.html

Showmethewaytogohome · 11/07/2016 17:42

Hmmm but it doesn't mean he will stand down. The party is in a mess at all levels. I suspect my local CLP who is looking for a motion of no confidence against our MP has actually been taken over by Socialist Workers Party under the guise of Momentum followers - this really worries me.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 17:44

Oh, I don't see that as him looking to stand down at all. It is just literally the only thing I could find that came close to being a statement from him about today's events!

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 17:44

Conor Pope ‏@Conorpope 1m1 minute ago
It has taken the same amount of time for the Tories to have an entire leadership contest as it has for Labour to simply begin one.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 17:46

Ginger - and it took, what, 5 hours to decide there was no need to put Gove back on the list, and no mentions of legal challenges. Labour might have begun one, but they certainly haven't agreed on the terms of it yet.

The ruthless efficiency is scary, but the utter chaos is even scarier.

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 17:48

I'm starting to believe (sad though it may be) that ruthless efficiency is what will get us through negotiations with the EU. Maybe by then Labour will get it's arse in gear and be able to step up with a decent leader that has the (annoying) MPs behind him.

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 17:50

4 minutes ago
Corbyn does not need signatures for leadership nomination
Corbyn leaving his north London home earlier.
Corbyn leaving his north London home earlier. Credit: PA
Jeremy Corbyn does not require any signatures to be nominated in the Labour leadership race.

ITV News has obtained legal advice given to the party by union Unite which said: "The rules by which the Labour Party is governed are unambiguous.

"The leader does not require any signatures to be nominated in a leadership election where there is a potential challenger to the leadership."

Any Labour MP wanting to challenge the current leader needs at least 51 signatures to get on the ballot.

Angela Eagle announced her bid to try and oust Corbyn earlier today.

Floisme · 11/07/2016 17:51

Watching the tory party today was like watching Liverpool in the 80s. In the end, you just have to applaud.

Unicornsarelovely · 11/07/2016 17:55

Gove had already fallen into line behind TM though before the 1922 committee spoke to confirm they wouldn't reopen the contest.

There's an interesting article in the guardian on the fact that power is what matters to the tories so they do what it takes to hang onto it, and being right matters to Labour.

Im glad AE has finally decided to stand, but don't see any way of this ending well for Labour. They met as well split now and get it over with Sad

Showmethewaytogohome · 11/07/2016 17:56

If you are interested this is a very good article which gives some explanation of what the SWP within Momentum is intending to do to take control of the grass roots of the Labour party. If you have control of the grass routes you can de select and control tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/socialist-workers-party-to-build-momentum-group-for-jeremy-corbyn/

The split is happening up and down the country with moderate left wingers being pushed to the side. The Labour Party needs to take control of the tide that Momentum has released. It's not just the Far right we need to be concerned about Sad

flippinada · 11/07/2016 17:57

"It has taken the same amount of time for the Tories to have an entire leadership contest as it has for Labour to simply begin one."

Yes, there's a lesson in there somewhere Ginger.

The lesson is, stop pissing about! (That's addressed to the LP, not you btw :) )

prettybird · 11/07/2016 17:57

Over half way to a new thread in less than 24 hours Shock

flippinada · 11/07/2016 17:59

Showme you're not wrong. It's been said before by someone, can't remember who, that the far left and the far right share more in common than you might think. Not going to mention the glaringly obvious example because Godwin.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 18:00

Rory BremnerVerified account ‏@rorybremner 5h5 hours ago
We need a General Election ASAP. Not because of #Brexit. I’m just not spending the next four years in a dress.

hehe

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 18:10

Mirror Politics ‏@MirrorPolitics 7m7 minutes ago
Theresa May said Gordon Brown had "no democratic mandate". Sign our petition calling for a new general election

Anyone else getting tired of petitions and just want the government to get back to work? Hmm

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 18:12

More Fantasy Cabinet, this time from the Times
Hammond - Chancellor
Grayling - Home Sec
Osborne - Foreign Sec

I think a woman will get at least one of the big three.

Some speculation she could give Boris DCMS if he wants it, so he can be Minister of Fun. Also, I'm not sure there's much he can fuck up there, that Whittingless didn't already.

SwedishEdith · 11/07/2016 18:13

It's all been worth it just to see Tim Loughton''s face

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 18:13

flippinada - yes, one of my GCSE History teachers was very fond of saying that the political spectrum curved in at both ends so they were closer to each other than the centre.