Midlle Class PC white woman don't apply feminism to their sisters.

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Having a catholic background and knowing how the church was a positively evil force in the past, I really detest religion getting together with the law. It was accepted at the time as being the right thing to do despite being obviously totally abhorrant.

When I go to another country I respect it's laws. What troubles me is the acceptance of Sharia courts here.

It seems that white PC women have a dreadful habit of not supporting girls who from family or peer pressure do not somehow deserve the protection of the law. I have a real problem with Theresa May saying it benefits people greatly - frankly it only benefits MEN.

www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2012/03/sharia-law-and-middle-class-feminism

Have just popped back on to the thread. I agree with a PP (or was it more than one?)...

That the idea put forward by Police forces in the North of England (and there have been similar less-profile cases in the UK) that they feared allegations of racism when confronted by allegations of sexual abuse by ethnic minority men on white girls/women is bollocks and a cover for a misogynistic Police force.

They don't fear allegations of racism in enhanced rates of stop and search, home raids, suspicion of drug dealing, weapon searches etc with young men from ethnic minorities. We know those rates are higher than for white British males.

They don't give a shit about accusations of racism then. What happened is they didn't care about or didn't believe often troubled children/young women who were in care or mentally ill or just unhappy at home and running away and doing drugs .....and then said they had been abused. The ethnicity of the perpetrators didn't matter until the Police could claim that was why they didn't do anything.

And where racism did come in is the idea which is still sadly pervasive in lots of groups in the UK that if you're a white girl getting involved with a man from another ethnicity, you are a 'particular' kind of girl and if they're abusive to you, well you should have anticipated that because they're not like 'us' and you made your bed.

And I would really like to think that isn't true. But I know too many inter-racial couples who have experienced prejudice and judgement from people who you think should know better and also those that you'd expect it from. I think there are very few parents of 'mixed' race children that haven't experienced some kind of comment or judgement and often, from their own families.

The girls in Rochdale and the other cases were let down for so many reasons but one was definitely racist and it wasn't 'oh we don't want to upset that community', it was about those girls 'willingly' having sex with a particular ethnic community so they got what they deserved really.

Sharia and Halal are very different animals.

One is a legal system with completely different values from the one it is allowed to coexist with.

There is a fundamental contradiction involved, at many levels, when two such different value systems are allowed to operate together.

The girls making the allegations were so obviously being abused and yet they were ignored and let down abysmally by the Police mylove. I agree they were misogynistic towards the abused girls and deeply prejudiced towards their 'characters'.

But I don't think this can all be put down purely to a misogynistic, judgemental, racist Police Force, anymore than the blame can be laid entirely at the door of the left wing Media. The blame is spread over both of those, as well as the local authorities, the Labour Party itself, several outside individuals as well, but mainly and overwhelmingly by the Perpetrators who all happened to be Muslim Men.

Surely you can't be suggesting that the local Labour led authorities in Rotherham, councillors social workers etc and the media were all part of a misogynist culture/conspiracy as well? Anne Cryer MP, informed the Guardian about her concerns at the time. She wrote " “At the time I was dealing with this, 2002-04. The Guardian at that time never mentioned these things… because it was so politically correct.”. The blame must be spread out.

Don't forget the context of the time, the Mac Pherson report came out just 1 year after the allegations started coming in, (these was not the first set of allegations about sexual abuse by Muslim gangs in Rotherham btw, they went right back to the 1970's) the Police were under intense scrutiny and suspicion because of the findings of that report - and the 'institutional racism' within the Police. I think it's undeniable that the South Yorkshire Police were jumpy about being seen as racist in this case.