march for europe - london - saturday 2nd july

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I am confused. Which "lies" were not debunked before the referendum?

AIBU to take DS and be disingenuous especially as family all leavers, as to why we nipping to London for the day!?

Everyone has the right to protest and this is not a general election which hasn't gone the way you had hoped. At least in that circumstance things can change after five years.

This decision will effect us, our children, grandchildren and all future generations. As such it is not something I can accept without making my voice heard loud and clear.

And I think, speaking as a non British resident, that immigrants (whether they are from the EU or not) need a symbol of reassurance that they are not hated and resented by the majority of the population. This is a good way to do it.

As for it leading to anarchy - excuse me but is that supposed to be a joke?

- that is from 'you people'
btw - we are all affected by the outcome not just you and your children and grandchildren
listen to yourself about the fact that immigrants are hated by the MAJORITY of the population - of course they are not
many many immigrants (who had the right to vote) voted leave - it was not always about immigration but sovereignty within the bloated EU

Serious questions to all those planning to attend. Do you believe this will change the outcome at all and that the demonstration will be taken seriously or are you going to simply express your dissatisfaction at the result?

This is not a debate thread ffs. It's about the march.

So - what's the situation with taking kids? How do you make sure you're at the back/don't get kettled?

mollie - i know that the vast majority of people in this country welcome immigrants but believe me i am not alone in finding the brexit result an unsettling experience. i've lived happily here for decades - longer than i lived in the country i come from - and the brexit vote makes me feel unwelcome. sorry if that offends you in any way but it's how i, and many eu citizens that live here, feel. i think it's important that leave voters understand and accept the emotions that the vote has stirred up in those of us who wanted to remain. without that understanding and without giving remainers the space to express their disappointment i think it'll take the country a much longer time to come together again.

whirlwind - we're taking our 6 and 8 year old and are joining in at the back or somewhere along the route

emeraldlakes - i don't think it'll change the result - at best it may have some influence on the negotiating strategy of the British team ( but probably not). but i just feel so so strongly about it that i feel i have to go.

Anyone have any details about provision for the less able (parking for wheelchair users etc ?).

Didn't jump out.

Last time I marched was 1985. Didn't work - our kids are still having to pay to go to University .

"many many immigrants (who had the right to vote) voted leave - it was not always about immigration but sovereignty within the bloated EU"
Some of these immigrants voted leave because of immigration. Immigrants can be xenophobic too.

The last demo i have been on was against the Iraq war. Not sure if i dare take my family to this one because there is always a small group of trouble makers.

Everyone has the right to protest and this is not a general election which hasn't gone the way you had hoped. At least in that circumstance things can change after five years

Which you wouldn't be able to do if we had stayed in the EU.

I go to a fair few demos, being a filthy undemocratic leftie. The chances of being kettled at something like this (a popular mass movement type march) are very slim and the London police are pretty good at working with match organisers. Don't be scared off!

The only thing that concerns me slightly is the possibility of some of our newly appointed defenders of democratic freedom from the far right turn up and start causing trouble.

this is not a general election which hasn't gone the way you had hoped

In a general election the losing side don't just pack their bags and go home. They form the opposition and continue to represent the people who voted for them.

glitter that's my only concern too

dacc not quite understanding what you mean i'm afraid - are you saying that staying in the eu would have meant an end to British general elections? I'm assuming that you're exaggerating the notion that Brussels has stolen all democratic rights from UK voters for dramatic effect?

Would other MNters like to meet up and walk together?

Alternatively, is there a Midlands event. Google isn't throwing any up ...

I hope our club coach travelling to the British Athletics League match doesn't get caught up in it.

I'm in the West Midlands. We could try starting one!

I can just see the people of Birmingham reacting well

Just trying to get details on how accessibilty issues will be dealt with.

The FB page |(predictably) says fuck all.

MrsLH and I would love to rock up in London and show our feelings.

But without a clear plan, we'll have to watch from afar.

Again.

At least we're used to it.

Would other MNters like to meet up and walk together?

Yes I would really like to go to this but feel a bit wary of going alone (I've never been to a protest march before).

It would be great to have someone to walk with.

We're in the shit because successive government's have treated the working class like shit.*

Exactly. Not because of the EU. And now the baby is about to be thrown out with the bathwater.

Yes I would like to walk with mumsnetters. Will be there with my 10 year old dd (can't get my other two dc off the sofa).

Shall we organise a meeting place?

The only thing that concerns me slightly is the possibility of some of our newly appointed defenders of democratic freedom from the far right turn up and start causing trouble.

Does anyone think this is likely? Maybe I shouldn't bring my dd?

Marching is completely and utterly pointless and will fortunately change nothing.

I'm afraid I can't go. Can someone wave a placard for me please.